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1st Game Call

Discussion in 'Turning Critique Forum' started by Steve in VA, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Steve in VA

    Steve in VA Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    After finishing my first pen, I got my first call completed; it's a buck grunt.

    Would love some feedback on how to improve it. It's a two piece with a tenon, with 2 o rings grooves.

    And would love advice on how to get the sound deeper. I thought about adding a tube, but don't like the looks of them as much. Using my hands to "cup" the end gets it close.

    Have a great weekend everyone!

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    Can't believe your firsts! Looks like you are already near pro! Chuck
     
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    I've never made one. Great job!!!
     
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    What reed u use?

    Looks great for a first!
     
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    Thanks! I used a JC Products, 100 series with the tapered bushing.
     
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    Hello Steve,

    I am new to the forum and have no experience wood turning but would like to make a Crow Call. Did you make your call from a set pattern or just by your own design? Any and all shared information would be appreciated. I really like the looks of your call.

    Have a great day,
    ThomasT
     
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    Hey Thomas,

    No, I didn't use a pattern but rather looked at a thousand online. Pinterest is a great resource.

    The other that happened was as a starting cutting and it took shape invariably I'd make a slight mistake and then the corrections help to form the final outcome...LOL! Sad, but true. The great thing is there's no hard and fast rule, so have fun with it.

    When turning the tenon, make sure to allow for the thickness the o rings add. When I first turned mine, I had to keep playing with it to get it snug, but not too tight. Lots of trial and back and forth with that. I'll take a close up so you can see how I did it. The great thing about it is the reed is fully adjustable, so you can easily switch from a doe to an old buck in the field. For a crow call, assuming that you're using a plastic pre-made reed, that won't be an issue.

    Good luck and show us what you come up with!
     
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    Here's a snapshot of the reed and o rings.

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    Hey again Steve,

    Would love to see all that you have photos of showing the turning process. I know what my first project will be now..it will be a Crow Call. I do not hunt Crows but live way out in the country and have three different species that frequent my property. I sure would like to "talk" with them and or maybe harass is a better term :lol2:

    Thanks so much and I appreciate your help.

    Have a great day,
    ThomasT
     
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    Thanks Steve :thanx2:
     
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    Learn something new every day....who woulda thunk :headscratch2:I thought there was only one type of crow...the annoying species :sarcastic:
     
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    Hello Lou,

    I have the American Crow, the Fish Crow and Common Crow (may or maynot be the same as an American Crow) that are found all around Sam Rayburn Lake.

    Have a great day,

    Thomas
     
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    Hello Wildthings,

    Thank you for all these links. I accidentally found Brookside a few minutes ago and ordered the Crow Call complete and the Guts for a Crow Call. I can look over the complete call to get ideas and then make one to install the guts. Now I am excited to turn some wood, or as we say in the metal business, "make some swarf".

    Thanks again to Steve for all his help.

    Have a great day,
    ThomasT
     
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    Thomas... Crow calls use an MT 2 taper on the reed. It'll make you cus a great deal if you simply try to bore it to whatever dimension. Don't ask me how I know this. I picked up a cheap set of MT2 reamers, on Amazon as best I recall. Cost about $20 for the pair. Makes building Crow calls much simpler!
     
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    Hello rocky1

    I will do a search and go ahead and order a set, thank you for this information.

    Have a great day,
    ThomasT
     
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    Steve... You're probably close already. Mamy reed type calls you cup your hand over the barrel, opening and closing the fist, to regulate air flow and change pitch. Slowing the flow of air causes the reed to flutter slower giving it a deeper pitch.

    Increasing the size of the barrel can also impact that however, as can thinning the walls on the bell. A larger chamber in the barrel slows the speed at which a given volume of air moves across the reed, and thinner walls resonate more.

    When I started playing with calls, the first two Crow calls I made were night and day difference. First was a straight barrel, I simply drilled the bore, left it with thick walls. Sounds like a Crow, high pitched caw. Second I flared the barrel like a bell, and thinned the walls. It has a much deeper tone and tends to not get responded to unless I talk back and forth with both, wherein the combination drives the crows crazy.

    Turn another barrel more open with thinner walls to fit that reed and see what, if any, difference it makes. You might also try a thicker reed, reducing size of the air chamber ahead of the reed, and even blowing through it more gently. All will affect pitch to some extent.
     
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    Thomas, there is a crow call pattern on the Shipley’s website.
     
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    Hello Casey,

    I went to their web site and downloaded a copy of the Crow Call pattern.

    Steve sorry about hijacking your thread, I have started a new thread "Newbie and the Crow Call" to divert all the help for me over there.

    Thanks everybody, have a great day
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    Steve will be there shortly too. Crow calls are a blast to make. Whether they come in to them or not is another story, but they'll generally talk back to you regardless, unless you come up with a Crow on steroids call like I did. But, if I iniate conversation back and forth between the two calls, they go nuts.

    I used the Crow Calls in example above, because it was hands down the most drastic difference I've ever seen in pitch effected by nothing other than design. Both were turned out off Walnut, both used the same reed. The only difference was the way the barrel was turned.

    Will get pictures of them up this evening when I get back to the house.
     
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