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Discussion in 'General Woodturning Discussion' started by Nubsnstubs, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. Nubsnstubs

    Nubsnstubs Where is it??? Full Member Thread Starter

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    One of the guys in my woodturning club is a retired colonel dentist. A little short runt. He just found out that he is allergic to Mesquite. About 2 months ago he called me and told about a property in his neighborhood that the owners were clearing the land of all vegetation. Everything!!! That included about 50-60 Mesquites of various sizes. I got with another turner and we met up at this property. We were immediately told that "if ya want it, take it". I decided I wanted only 3 trees. We got our trees cut down, and I proceeded to cut it into 2 1/2" thick slabs. I gave the Colonel two book matched slabs. he was a happy camper, until he started itching a few days later.
    Yesterday he called and said any and all Mesquite blanks and wood he has is mine if I want it. Well, it's hard to turn down wood that I milled, so I went over today and loaded up all that he was getting rid of.

    To my surprise, a lot was Desert Willow, and there are 2 pieces of Maple he got in Pennsylvania. All are sealed, and ready to be mounted. Check it out below.

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    I don't know what to do with it because my lathe is still over at a friends house. I'll use some, but will give up most of it. When I unload the truck, I'll take individual pictures and post them here for sale or trade. the Desert willow looks interesting. It's the stuff that's wrapped......... Jerry (in Tucson)
     
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    Incredible treasure trove! Seems a great time to pay it forward! Chuck
     
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    Chuck, that's what I intend to do with most.......... I'll unload the truck about Wednesday, take some pictures, sort through the blanks, and then post what might make some of you guys happy. I do have to give some to some of the club members though. ........ Jerry (in Tucson)
     
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    Great “find”” !!
    Taking care of friends is a reward in itself.
     
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    Dessert Willow, Chilopsis linearis, is usually a large shrub...?.. Based on the "milk" crate comparison, that is huge.

    Wonder if it is actually x Chitalpa, one of the Dessert willow and Catalpa hybrids...??..
     
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    Today, I finally had a chance to look at this wood more carefully. Most of what is labeled Desert Willow is actually Apple wood. Then, there were a couple labeled Desert Willow that is wood I've never seen before. It also looks like there are a couple pieces of Mesquite that tried to get spalting going, but didn't quite make it. Tomorrow I'll get pictures of this stuff after I run it through the jointer to clean it up some.

    Mark, you always tell people who are going to send you a sample that they need to be a certain size. Would pieces larger work for you? I would think you have equipment to mill woods to make your sample size. I cut a piece today that might be DW, but it's about 1 1/4" thick, 4" wide and about 6-7" wide. I could send that to you if you want. I'll make up more of the other stuff, including bark if you like. .......... Jerry (in Tucson)
     
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    Thank you for the offer Jerry. I have a few pieces of Dessert willow from a fellow member here. I was trying to be helpful as some sizes seemed wrong for the name. Yes, I have re-milling capabilities. I assume you meant 6-7" long, since wide was mentioned twice. I'm good for Dessert willow common growth, looking for a burled sample. Same for the Mesquite, now looking for burled samples. So if you know the species, keep me in mind. Thank you.
     
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    oops. that should have been 6-7" LONG. Getting old as Mike.

    Mark, do you think it could be Desert Elm if that's the proper name? I know where there's a lot of that growing........

    Mesquite burl?? Heck, I got some of that. It's about 60 years dead. Color is gorgeous...... Want some? Got a ton of Cottonwood burl. Want some of that? .......... Jerry
     
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    Dessert elm is a name often used for Chinese elm, Ulmus parviflora, a common landscape tree. A quality end grain picture should reveal if it is in the the elm family. Siberian elm, Ulmus pumila is also an invasive common tree in AZ.

    Yes, I have interest for sure in a burled sample of Mesquite. Do you know which one (species)?

    Likewise, Yes for the cottonwood too. Which species? I lack having any samples of Fremont cottonwood (Populus fremontii) and Narrowleaf cottonwood (P. angustifolia). These two trees also hybridize to produce Populus x hincleyana, which I also lack.

    Thanks Jerry
     
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    i have gotten a couple of desert willow logs, landscape removal, grows as a tree here, it has pink flowers. when i find it on wikipedia they call it desert willow commomly but
    Chilopsis scientifically

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilopsis, nice looking wood, mine are drying whole haven't been slabbed yet
     
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    Mark, I am certain the Mesquite would be Velvet. It's our native, and where I got the burl is out in the desert. The tree was pulled out of the ground by the ranchers back in the late 60's- very early 70's so grass would grow for their cattle. Most of the tree trunks are still around even today on one ranch I visit.

    All I can say about the Cottonwood is it grew along Milk Creek in the Bradshaw Mountains west of Prescott, Arizona. I have a thread here from a few years ago showing the actual tree I got the burls from. Just under a year year ago, I posted a thread showing the pieces of burl I got.

    As far as the Elm goes, what I have was collected grew along Milk Creek, but it just happened to be where a small mining settlement was in the late 18 hundreds. It could be a transplant. The Elm I got from there had open growth rings like Ash and Oak. ................ Jerry (in Tucson)
     
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    Thanks, Trev. the link posted has this at the end of it. The wood was used to make bows and baskets.[7]

    Apparently it's a native also. On Valencia Road from my cross street to I-19 is about 6 miles. There has to be at least 300 of them planted along it in the last 6-7 years. I haven't gotten any of the wood from that species yet, so don't know what it looks like...........
     
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    It looks a LoT like Catalpa...
     
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    here's a table i made that includes some of what we commonly call desert willow. landscape mullberry on the out side and desert willow squares in the middle this was a small shrub like tree no bigger than 6 foot tall with about a 6" trunk, the center had gone soft like areas in peckywood cedar, the last one i got was 30 ft tall and about 14" across at the stump, growing in the front yard of a house, tree was probably no more than 30 yrs old, good solid wood throughout, nice medium brown color, very little sap wood

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    This is what Wiki says...
     
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    we have fremont cottonwoods here in las vegas
     
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    Mark, looking at those maps, up near Prescott, both species would be there. I've only seen Fremontii leaves on any of the Cottonwoods around the area. I suppose I'll have to pay more attention to them when I go back up there at Thanksgiving. Trouble is, if it's a cold fall, the trees have shed the leaves.
    I have access to several properties along the Hassyampa River that is loaded with Cottonwoods. Last time though, I found a dead Walnut tree about 1/4" mile above the river. Cottonwood was the last thing on my mind. I think I need a bigger trailer.... Jerry (in Tucson)
     
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    @Nubsnstubs very nice haul. Let me know if you are making a road trip west. :cool:
     
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    I hear you. I saw the overlap and simply thought "Screwed" for ID. same with the walnut, my mind may have been just as focused.

    We'll see in time what may be...thanks.
     
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    John, I can't go into California any more. I'm a fugitive seat belt felon. ............... Jerry (hiding out in Tucson)
     
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