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Betty's bike.

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    This is the next build. It will be a total custom cruiser like my red fat tire bike.
    It's a Schwinn American.
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    As far as I can tell it's a 1963 by the serial number.
     
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    And here we go! It's on the work stand and ready for teardown. I already ordered the powdercoat and it should be here tomorrow.
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    Very nice! I'm sure it will be a beauty.
     
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    Looks great for a 1963 girl's bike before you even start! Please show pics as you continue on. Chuck
     
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    Will do, I hope folks aren't tired of my bike builds yet, it's all I can find time to do right now with my work schedule.
     
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    The teardown has begun.
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    The only things left to come off is the fork and kickstand, then it's off to the powdercoater.
     
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    Definitely not tired of bike builds! Keep 'em coming! Chuck
     
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    I finished stripping the frame today, and noticed some thing odd when I flipped the frame over to knock out the headset bearing cups. I saw what I thought was a broken frame at first. But on closer inspection it appears to be a manufacturing defect. The head tubes on the old Schwinn frames where filet brazed, this one looks like all the void was not filled in. The frame is not cracked all the way around and there is an obvious low spot. I'll wire wheel it and take it to a friend of mine in a weld shop to be filled in with brazing rod, then I'll file it and smooth it before taking it to the powder coater.

    It's when I turned it upside down for stripping that I saw it.
    20190103_205319.jpg See what looks like a crack on the bottom tube?
    20190103_205256.jpg Here you can clearly see the defect and how one tube is lower than the other. I'll fix that.
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    I have since learned that this frame is bent and it would take quite a bit of work to straighten it and it would need another tube welded in between the 2 main tubes to strengthen it. It's just not worth the time and effort to repair it. I have other frames I can use. No worries, this build will go on.
     
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    When we were kids and a frame got bent, the old guy down the road would brace it, like you mentioned but for special kids he'd cut and sleeve it. Still a good bit of work, and if you have another frame already, you're golden.
     
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    Well the Betty has gone in a different direction, I was going to use a newer Chinese Schwinn frame I have on hand because of the bent frame, but then I stumbled on this. It's either a 52 or 53 Schwinn Spitfire. Has some very cool features that will make an excellent donor for a custom cruiser, like the S2 painted ballon tire rims! They'll be stripped and powdercoated and get new spokes, I'll probably change the hubs too.
    As I found it.
    20190105_155324.jpg And up on the work stand ready to be torn down for trip to powdercoat.
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    This is going to be a fun build for me. Albeit more detailed.
     
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    Well its stripped and ready for powdercoat. When you take apart a bike from the 50s you can really see how much more heavy duty they where back in the day. Everything is bigger and thicker, the bearings and races show almost no wear! Schwinn quality was amazing, it was there moto, they guaranteed them for as long as you owned them.
    It always amazes me when you pull the handgrips after 70 years there is still shiney chrome under them.
    20190106_172253.jpg Stripped and ready for powdercoat, no issues with this frame.
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    Well the powder coat came in the mail. It's called grape ape. So I figured I better start cleaning parts. First was the 1953 kickstand.
    Pretty rusty so a trip to the glass bead blast cabinet was the trick for this.
    20190109_160802.jpg 20190109_160813.jpg It cleaned up real nice.
    20190109_171658.jpg Miller made a seriously tough kickstand in 1953.
    20190109_171713.jpg 20190109_171725.jpg Since it wasn't chromed originally or painted I decided to leave it with the raw look. A few coats of clear rust oleum enamel will preserve the look I want and protect it at the same time.
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    Next is the seat post and the clamp. A seriously strong clamp, not like the cheap metal stamped clamps of today. I'm finding everything on this 53 Schwinn to be very heavy duty.
    Rusty corroded parts.
    20190110_170028.jpg Can you see the letters on the clamp bolt?
    20190110_170037.jpg Now you can after glass bead blasting.
    The significance of the AS is Arnold Schwinn. Also note the Schwinn name on the seat post, all original parts.
    20190110_171843.jpg 20190110_171859.jpg The clamp and bolt get the clear enamel to protect it and still leaves it raw looking.
    20190110_172418.jpg I'm liking the clear finish technique on some of the parts, kinda looks like it has a patina but without the rust.
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    Well something happened today by complete accident and I think it's going to look cool on the bike. I was cleaning the wald crank and after I degreased it I thought I'd hit it with a fine scotch brite pad to clean it up a bit more. The chrome or whatever it was as a coating came right off with just a few rubs! But under that was a really cool looking copper coating. So I did the whole thing but not to much so I left some of the patina. There's not going to be a lot of chrome on this bike.
    The original wald crank, no date code like on Schwinns other bikes.
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    1 leg done. Purely by mistake!
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    1 leg to go.
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    looks kinda nice.
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    And it gets a few coats of the clear I have been using on the other parts for some protection.
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    Very different looking and just a touch of patina still.
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    We interrupt this bicycle build for a spontaneous new tool box insertion!

    The old box, I hated digging through it trying to find the tool I needed.
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    The new box is so much nicer, and my wheel truing stand fits on the shelf below.
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    I dressed it up a little with some park took stickers.
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    Much more organized and easier to find my tools now.
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    I like it. Looks really well organized:good2:
     
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    Worked on some parts st work today. I had a newer schwinn gooseneck from a modern cruiser, nice solid unit that clamps well, it it was aluminum and chrome. So I scuffed up the aluminum and shot it with gloss black rustoleum. Then I cleaned up the crank sprocket. It does have some pitting from rust, that's to be expected from a bike built in 1953. I'll probably use it unless I come across something nicer.
    I'm looking for a handlebar with a slightly higher rise to them in black.
    20190114_172150.jpg 20190114_172205.jpg 20190114_172213.jpg Both sides of the sprocket after degreasing.
    20190114_173028.jpg 20190114_173039.jpg I rubbed a little with a scotch brite pad, some of the rust came of and some was pitted and pretty deep.
    20190114_173045.jpg I might try hitting this on the buffer, it won't do much for the rust but itll shine it up a bit.
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    And today I scored a nice headbadge for the bike, it's not the correct one for the bike but that may take some time to find. Badges with the correct hole spread and that say Spitfire are a little hard to come across. But this one is really cool, it says Arnold Schwinn on the bottom and is from around 1937. Pretty cool for a custom build. And the screw hole measurement is correct.
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