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Black Stain

Discussion in 'Sanding & Finishing - Woodturning' started by GeorgeS, May 23, 2017.

  1. GeorgeS

    GeorgeS Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Can anyone give me some tips on a very black stain? I am turning a platter out of a very nice piece of curly maple and Im hoping to stain the wood after turning it some to create the high spots I want to remain black then turn away the areas I want to be clear. Im hoping after finish sanding the raised parts are black but the curl still shows through the black (not clear). I have no idea which stain to use or how deep it will penetrate. The penetration can be tested but any other hints, tricks, tips or past experience is welcome!
     
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    Schroedc Trying to kick a nasy sawdust habbit.... Staff Member Global Moderator Full Member

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    I've made my own stains using oil based artists paints, also used dyes mixed with alcohol. Some of it is going to depend on what the final finish is going to be.
     
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    George, Jimmy Clewes has a video on turning and staining maple platters that might help:

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    GeorgeS Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    @Tom Smart Thank you for the video!

    @Schroedc I plan to finish with either a shellac or maybe just a wax finish.....I haven't decided on that yet.
     
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    Schroedc Trying to kick a nasy sawdust habbit.... Staff Member Global Moderator Full Member

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    Cool, I might have to do some playing myself, I've got some big platter blanks and some neat red oil based art paints to play with....
     
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    When you make your own stains from oil based paint what are you cutting it with, paint thinner?
     
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    I needed to stain stairs steps black .. made from red oak ... general finishes makes black stain and a black jell coat stain .. bought mine from wood craft ..
     
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    Correct, I generally use whatever they call for to thin it or clean it up. One I did used mineral spirits as the solvent. They are all a bit different.
     
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    George it ain't stain that i use, I use ink. If you have any old printer ink cartridge ( toner ink ) India ink, it works great. Just get your platter where you like it, sand to at least 220. slow your lathe way down, then just take a brush and put it on where you want it. Let dry about 15 min. and sand back till you like what you see.You will most likely have to start sanding starting with 80 grit then just work your way to higher grits till your happy.This is the wooden knife i did like that but off a lathe, and a deer grunt i did, but used blue on grunt. super simple.
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    Using black shoe polish/wax might give you the effect you are looking for.
     
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    I'd lean more toward dye than stain... I think the figure is likely to show better with dye than stain. The Clewes method has worked for me.
     
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    @Charles Neil has a video on turning something black and he adds a bit of India Ink to get the blackest black. I'd have to do some searching to find the details - maybe he'll chime in and save me the effort :)
     
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    @DKMD what brand of dye have you used? I'm going to give that a try if I can find black.
     
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    Chestnut alkaline dye .. has a black
     
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    Yep... I use Chesnut dyes. I think Transtint makes a black dye also, and I've heard nothing but good about their stuff.
     
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    Have transtint also ... I usually mix with epoxy to fill voids .., but it is really really black ... wear rubber gloves .. don't ask how I know
     
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    Wood turners douche would work as well.
     
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