~\ENDED/~ Belah also called Au. Black Oak (Casuarina cristata) forth known hardest wood in world

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Have a piece of Belah (Casuarina cristata) for sale. Around 8" long by 1 3/8 by 1 3/8 . Turns and finishes really nice. Tied with Lignum Vitae as the fourth known hardest wood in the world. Asking $22.

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...(Casuarina cristata) ... Tied with Lignum Vitae as the fourth known hardest wood in the world.
I wouldn't get too carried away w/ "fourth hardest". Tables of such are notoriously fickle. My own shows it as the 6th hardest
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Now I am super curious about Solomon Islands black wood and Philippine lignum vitae. Beautiful wood by the way. Reminds me of the casuarina growing here in Taiwan.
 

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I wouldn't get too carried away w/ "fourth hardest". Tables of such are notoriously fickle. My own shows it as the 6th hardest
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What list are you using as a reference? You are correct about there are recorded harder woods but they usually are for the Janka test on individual samples versus an average for the species.
 

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I wouldn't get too carried away w/ "fourth hardest". Tables of such are notoriously fickle. My own shows it as the 6th hardest
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I have did quite a bit of searching and have never seen Desert Ironwood listed, it's gotta be up there somewhere... wonder why someone hasn't tested it?
 

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I have did quite a bit of searching and have never seen Desert Ironwood listed, it's gotta be up there somewhere... wonder why someone hasn't tested it?
Why do you make things hard when I've already DONE it for you?

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I'd say that was a great deal but only if Eric (@Krume ) offers hole drilling service. If that wood is that hard I bet it'll smoke a drill bit or two.
 

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Huh. I just realized that this is a sheoak. Certainly doesn't look like one. I've seen sheoak look just a little bit dull, but never anything like this piece. I can't see any rays at all. Normally, all sheoaks, regardless of cut, show strong signs of the rays.

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/sheoak.htm
 

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Huh. I just realized that this is a sheoak. Certainly doesn't look like one. I've seen sheoak look just a little bit dull, but never anything like this piece. I can't see any rays at all. Normally, all sheoaks, regardless of cut, show strong signs of the rays.

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/sheoak.htm
It is reported to be the only species in the genus to not have the wide rays. Finishes well though and looks good, see attached bottle stopper. Like maples the sapwood is thick and hard.

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It is reported to be the only species in the genus to not have the wide rays.
Good to know. Where did you find that information?
 

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Those are nice and the hole only needs to go part way, much easier. Still - no hole drilling service though, right?
 

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Eric (@Krume ) I just got the piece that you sent. Thanks again. WOWZERS is this stuff every hard and heavy. This would be a great wood for a billy club.

When I get around to processing it, I'll be interested in seeing how the end grain compares to "normal" sheoak varieties.
 

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Good to hear the piece finally made it to you! The box spent a month in Baltimore before being sent towards New York. Saw more than one comment from people in Australia that the wood was not a favorite one to work with because it did not have the wide rays like the other species in the Genus. Have made a few things with the species and it turns fine and finishes well with a really nice look.

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