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Form-Opinions on shape

Discussion in 'Turning Critique Forum' started by Bean_counter, Nov 23, 2018.

  1. Bean_counter

    Bean_counter Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    I’m wanting to move into more art and decor pieces. With that I would like your opinion on the shape of this one. I will add a finial as well on the top likely in black. Thanks for the critique

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    Imo a smaller base would be more appealing and into that "art" realm.
     
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    Got any pics from a higher angle?

    If the vase's main wood is unusual then also consider just adding a small collar of a contrasting wood or a small finial on top so the main focus stays on the vase itself.
     
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    rocky1 Creator of Shavings and Sawdust! Full Member

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    Looks interesting but definitely needs something on top to draw the attention up. Better light and a nice finish will make it scream as well.
     
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    Are you going to embelish the cracks?
     
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    There's so much subjectivity in "art", so it's hard to give anything other than opinion/random thoughts...

    I like that form, especially with a finial. The shoulder/wide point might be a little high for a form without a finial, but I like the higher shoulder on forms with finials.

    I like to make a little upturn near the opening on most form... I find it helps me blend the top of the form into the base of the lid/finial.

    I tend to tuck the bottom of hollow forms a little more, but I know other folks who like the more squared off base. You gotta ask your muse on that one...

    Looking forward to seeing that one with a finial and some finish!
     
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    What David said plus perhaps a little smaller/thinner below the shoulder all the way to a smaller foot. Looks real nice! Are you filling or just cleaning up the cracks ?
     
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    Thanks Karl I’ll add some more pics tomorrow and tag you. I did make a finial and in the process of dying it
     
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    Thanks Rock! I made a finial today and dyed it black so waiting for that to dry
     
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    Rip I filled them with dust didn’t want something to Stand out to much as the olive has nice figure and didn’t want to take away from that
     
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    Thanks Doc. I am in the process of making a finial as I completely agree with that assessment. I’m going to post more pics as
    I honestly think the base is smaller and turned in more than what the one pic shows. Finish wise I was thinking lacquer
     
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    Thanks Albert. I will def look into the shoulder but think it might be the pic that shows it wider but I’m not sure. I’ll post up more pics for everyone to see tomorrow. I filled the crack with dust but plan on leaving them the way they are. The olive has nice figure and don’t want to take away from that
     
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    Like folks have already said, form, and art, is very subjective and personal. It took me a lot of turnings to settle on what I liked best personally, none of the early shapes were terrible, but some were pretty clunky. The shoulders are a little too sharp on yours for my taste, and the sides a little too straight. But it is really a nice piece and some buyer will love it I'm sure. The size of the foot looks about right IMO. It is kinda of a balance, smaller foot = artsier look, larger foot =more stable and practical. In the past I usually made my decision on shapes by what was the largest thing I could make from a given piece of wood, I try to fight that urge now, and go more for form. Sounds like you're getting into making decor pieces for sales now, which is what I've been doing for a few years, here are a couple of things I have learned, wormy, natural edge, generally gnarly things sell at least 2 to 1 better than refined and perfect things, and are less labor intensive, stick some turquoise in there and they sell even better. I would probably not put turquoise in the one you show, cause there are too many cracks to fill, but otherwise I would indeed. I'm not a fanatic for turquoise, but I have yielded to the wishes of the consumer on it.... good luck and keep em coming!
     
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    I presume it is or will be hollowed? You probably need to figure out who your audience, that is, who are you making the art forms for. Like Barry said, yield to the consumer if you want to maximize sales. Chuck
     
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    Okay guys here is some more pics and views. Also is the finial I turned for it without the ebony dye.

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    Thank you! Yes it is hollow. 1/8” walls
     
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    If you haven't already, you might want to run a seal coat of lacquer over it, then fill your cracks, to keep your CA from staining around the cracks Bean. Especially if you're already down to 1/8" thick; you can't afford a lot of sanding to clean those spots up. Finial looks nice, doesn't look overly large, nice form to it in my book. Was measuring on my computer screen last night and the base is pretty close to 1/3 the widest point of the vessel. That first picture you posted was a little deceiving with the contrast in what it was sitting on, going out to clear blue sky. A little sparkle from finish on the wide point, finish is going to make all those subtle shades in that olive pop, and she's gonna be very pleasing to the eye with that ebony stained finial on top. Somewhere in Lubbock there is some woman with lots of money going to love it! Unfortunately... That may be your wife!
     
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    I’d consider just making a collar for it... see if you like the collar or finial better.
     
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    Doc what would be an appropriate height for the collar?
     
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