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Lyle Jamieson captured hollowing jig reviews

Discussion in 'Tool Reviews' started by Don Ratcliff, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Don Ratcliff

    Don Ratcliff Tinkering on something Full Member Thread Starter

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    I am unwrapping the tool today and it is made of heavy gauge steel but my first impression is wood workers should not weld unless you take the time to learn how. I may need to rework these joints.
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    I'm not a welder, but that looks like a hack job.
     
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    That’s some not-so-pretty welds. The corners look like tack welds. I now feel good about my welding! I may have a few cold weld areas but I make up in total area covered.
    Don, I’d be wanting to reinforce that before use to be on cautious side.

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    I would not except that tool. That is crap.
     
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    Sprung Amateur Sawdust Maker Full Member

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    I have an older Jamieson setup and the welds, from what I remember, are better than that. It's been packed up for a couple months with the move, so I haven't laid eyes on it for a while. I'll take some pics whenever I get it unpacked.
     
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    DKMD Sawbones Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Full Member

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    Looks like it was done at the welding school for the blind... I would not be happy with that.
     
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  7. Don Ratcliff

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    I sent lyle an email with the pics. I'm in the business of handling problems so I expect they happen. The true test is how he handles this. I am not going to use the tool until it's rewelded. Lucky I have a good welder at work who can do it. First I'll see what he does.

    Your move lyle.
     
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    Let us know what they say and do.
     
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  9. woodtickgreg

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    I'm not a welder but I do a way better job then that.:sarcastic:
     
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    That kit is expensive. Hard to imagine it being delivered like that. Anxious to see how this turns out. He is scheduled to be at the VA Woodturners Symposium first weekend in Nov. I’m gonna look over his stuff then.
     
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    Yes Don. Let us know how this turns out. I looked at his rig at the Portland Symposium and didn’t notice this problem with the unit he was using to demonstrate with. I admit I wasn’t inspecting welds at the time. By the way, I thought my wife could weld but turned out she can’t. Maybe same deal with Lyle.
     
  12. Don Ratcliff

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    Ok, this was not the response I expected. Time to look up the return policy.

    Hi Don,

    Thanks for the photos. That is not a tack weld. Even though it is not pretty it is a strong deep weld. We cannot weld all the way around the steel. The weld on the top and bottom would not allow the handle to get in and out of the back rest support. If you are concerned, do a test of the welds. Put the handle on the floor with a block on the corner and stand on it. You will be able to break the weld. Or take a mallet and hit it at the corner. You can prove to yourself that it is safe.



    I want to make sure you are happy with it. If you want to get a replacement, I would be glad to exchange it. But the new one will not look much different. Every weld is different because it is a hard to reach welding spot. The two pieces need to be held flat while the welding is done so the two pieces do not warp when heated they are held in a fixture.
     
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    Tony Hardwood Enthusiast Staff Member Global Moderator Full Member

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    It's unfortunate that is his response. I would expect much better quality considering what he charges for that setup.
     
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    Well, thats certainly a tack weld.
     
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    Yeah, it does appear to be sold separately.

    I lucked into my setup when someone at the club was getting out of turning.
     
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    Don, is this what you got from him?? If it is, send it back and have your buddy make one for you. There is no reason for him to say you can't weld the complete seams. At the least, he should have chamfer on the abutting pieces to give it a stronger joint. When you send it back, tell him Jerry of GM Woodworking says his tool is a piece of crap....... There is a back story to this, but you ain't gonna hear about it.............Jerry (in Tucson)

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    When I make a rig for myself like that I guarantee it will be welded all the way around, and I'll grind the welds down if need be for clearance and smooth operation. Mine will also be solid bar. Just trying to find access to a welder at this time.
     
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