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Old Veneer

Discussion in 'Veneering' started by Reed Enright, Sep 6, 2016.

  1. Reed Enright

    Reed Enright Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    I have some veneer that is about 12 years old. It has been stored on a shelf in the garage, not climate controlled. I looked at it not long ago and it seems very brittle. I am wondering if it is still good. Is there a way to know if this stuff is still good?

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  3. Reed Enright

    Reed Enright Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks for that info. I have never veneered but am planning to give it a try. Is mdf a good substrate?
     
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    Yes, mdf will work fine, just be sure to veneer both sides of the substrate regardless of what you use. The "back side" can be a plane jane veneer if it's not going to show or be readily visible on the finished product.

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    We've used the water softener trick for years. Table tops, drawes, veneers exc.
     
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    Joe woodworker sells a veneer softener called Super Soft 2
    I got a small spray bottle for about 9 bucks. I haven't used it yet, but for 9 bucks its worth a shot. The guy seems to know what he's talking about.

    Nice veneer! What is it?
     
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  7. Reed Enright

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    Not really sure but some sort of burl. I have had it for years
     
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    Looks like elm burl veneer. Here's an elm burl bowl for comparison

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    Yes it does look like the elm veneers I have
     
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    I've used 50 year old veneer and it was fine. Not an expert but I have worked with Veneer a lot and enjoy it a ton. You can use a glycerine mixture to make it plyable and flatten it, there is a fairly detailed process on it out there all over the web and some people make their own softener. I buy mine because I love the product I use. It's so flexible when on the product I can make a cigar out of it without harming it .. a burl even.

    I store most of my veneers in plastic bags.. trash bags after putting them between cardboard or something else. That way they stay a bit more equalized but I don't know that it matters. Either way your veneer is still great!
     
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    Pretty veneer- as noted above be sure to flatten it- a good formula is water, denatured alcohol , hide glue and glycerin. The ratio I used with success was: 1 pint water+ one pint denatured alcohol+2 Table spoons of hide glue+ 4 Table spoons glycerin. Mix it up and use a spray bottle- wet the veneer and use brown paper ( get at Staples) with a couple leaves on top and bottom then weigh down the veneer with whatever or if you have a press use it. After a hour or so change out the paper and repeat that once or twice more over the next half dozen hours. Actually keep doing it until the moisture content of the veneer is safe ( also this process can be a little tricky depending upon the species of veneer, the temperature of the room and any other variable that might impact the process). Once the veneer is dry enough to use I keep it under pressure because veneer has " memory" and will revert to the wrinkled state if you allow it. Optimal veneer storage is in a cool area with low (40% ) humidity- good luck trying to find that. Hope this helps.
     
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