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Possible Hickory burl ID..?

Discussion in 'Wood Identification & Characteristics of Wood' started by Danny H, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. Danny H

    Danny H Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    This came from an arborist. it sat on the ground for a while which is why was not 110% sure, but he really thought was hickory.
    I have pics below. Ive got this massive trunk that appears to have the bark and look of hickory. What's throwing me off a bit is that it does appear to have some eye/pin type figure in a few places. Most hickory burl doesn't seem to show that. There's not alot, but looks to be some.

    Let me know what you guys think please.

    Have more pictures if you would like to see more. Thank you

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  2. Kevin

    Kevin Wood is good. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Founding Member Full Member

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    The tree bark itself does have the deep furrowed characteristic of mockernut, or even the slightly less furrowed of pignut, but the burl wood istelf doesn't have any of the classic hickory burl look.

    I'd like to see more pics especially of the top of the stem.
     
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    Danny H Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    I was thinking mockernut. I also started to wonder if the different species would have different burl characteristics. Once I get deeper into it I guess I'll see more.

    I'm not sure what you mean by top of the stem Kevin. Here is a pic of the rest of it I haven't cut into

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    The stem is the short stubby portion of the tree trunk still attached to the burl. You showed the top in your last pic.

    Based on this last image I'm 99% certain you have a hickory burl. Most likely mockernut. My ID commission is a very modest 50% of the wood.
     
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    Kevin Wood is good. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Founding Member Full Member

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    Seriously though, if you find some really nice classic hick burl pattern in there and want top dollar for it, I'll tag @DDadams for you. He's always on the lookout for it and he's an honest guy to deal with.
     
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    Danny H Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Hahaha! Thank you Kevin. If this is hickory and turns out the way I'm hoping I'd love to share it with people. There is probably 150# of burl (wet) here. Being that it's so rare-ish I'd like to help the world out with some :)

    These last pics are sealed, so the color is a bit off, but it has the kind of brown swirls chocolate/vanilla looking stuff starting to show I think.
    Thank you again

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    This is what you're trying to find in it....

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    I gave most of mine away too. If I ever come across anymore I am going to guard it with my life.
     
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    Danny you should post a pic of your call made from Hick Burl .
     
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    Danny H Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Yes I know very well what I'm hoping to find. Very excited, but I just keep doubting is reality!
    It's all this first peice I ever bought's fault :) it's no doubt my favorite American burl! Maybe favorite overall even.

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    I still have the two pen blanks I got from ya :good2:
     
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    Danny H Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Any one in particular? I've made 3 now all coupled with ABW. I guess I'll post the ones I can find. I don't know who you are manbuckwal but I guess you know me haha. Here you go buddy

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    I still haven't seen a project made from any of it that I gave away. I just PM'd a couple of knifemakers asking for pics lol. Can't wait to see a pen from it. I stabilized what few pieces I kept. Not going to make a pen with it until I try a few practice pens but you don't need any practice! :nodice:
     
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    Mine are stabilized also, I just have'nt decided on a kit, but the Jr Abraham is a likely candidate a



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    I LOVE that kit - one of my top 5 favorites. Maybe top 3.
     
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    That's a heck of a pen! With hickory it would be incredible
     
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    I'm not seeing it well. I tried enlarging the picture but it blurred before getting big enough to look at the few buds protruding from the mass. First glance says "narl" to me, basically the same as a "burl" but lacking eyes. The bark did remind me of "bitternut hickory" a bit, but the fissures were too wide. Laugh if you want, but I first thought it was a "basswood" (Tilia spp) at first look. The bark fissures matched, the heartwood color matched many cut with heart-rot, and the wood appeared diffuse porous versus the ring porous hickories.

    How dense / hard is the wood? Does it dent with the fingernail, and if so, how easily?
     
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    It dents with finger nail just barely if I push really hard and kind of dig into it. A few more pics showing some other views

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    My phone screwed up. Here's a bit of straight grain under florescent light. Sorry, I can get sunlight tmrw the center mass of it has began to spalt, and the side that sat on the ground for a long while started to rot

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    End grain, under florescent. If I need to get closer ill have to break out the nice camera :)

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    Now, I meant to do the fingernail test on the normal growth wood. Burls and narls are usually different consistencies. Which wood did you do it on?
     
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