Well the mill is about paid off and I think I'm due for a new toy and quite possibly a piece of my retirement income and am looking at cnc routers, plus winter is about here and I want a new challenge. I've been digging around for an affordable unit that has the work area that suits my needs and finally found what I may be looking for. The Probotix Nebula, http://www.probotix.com/ has a work area of 37x50x5" and has a 4th axis for turning "stuff". It uses Vectric software which is suppose to be pretty user friendly and being that I haven't used any kind of 2D or 3D anything in 12 years, I'm all about user friendly. This cnc comes ready to use right out of the box for about $5g for everything I need to get started or just over $7g for everything that I want, but I can add the 4th axis and the expensive software later. Any word on Probotix and their cnc's would be greatly appreciated.