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Recipe for Linseed Oil and Beeswax

Discussion in 'Sanding & Finishing - Woodturning' started by ThomasT, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:08 AM.

  1. ThomasT

    ThomasT Member Full Member Thread Starter

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    Hello Everyone,

    I want to make some Linseed Oil / Beeswax mixture for applying onto Calls. I would like to get your input as to what ratios you use and any special technique in making the mixture.

    I have watched several videos where they use a double boiler to melt the Beeswax along with the Linseed Oil to make a specific mixture and would appreciate any help.

    Have a great day,

    ThomasT
     
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    rocky1 Creator of Shavings and Sawdust! Full Member

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    Wish I could help there, but I still do it old school and apply separately. If you'll shop Amazon and find some Carnauba wax, usually comes in flakes, or ground up, you can add that to your mixture to make a harder finish on the call. Still have the same qualities to the finish, low luster shine, bring the beauty out in the wood, and all; it'll just be a more durable shine.
     
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    Hello rocky1,

    One of the videos that I watched did add some "wax" in a flake form to his mix. I do plan to use your technique on some but I would like to try making this mixture also. One guy showed three different mixtures which gave him a soft, medium and a hard mix, but he only used the BLO and Beeswax in his recipes.

    Maybe some of the members will share their secret recipes here:ok:

    Have a great day,
    ThomasT
     
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    There are a lot of variables involved. Some guys shoot for a consistency like automotive paste wax, and store in a butter dish. Others go for something more like mayonnaise and store in squirt bottle.

    Double boiler isn't absolutely necessary on the wax, but it's easier. As long as you maintain a low temp you'll be OK. You can do it over a hot plate in the shop, in an old throw away frying pan. (Don't think I'd do the BLO in the wife's double boiler, and leave any flavor there to linger in her next batch of candy.) The beeswax will begin melting around 120 - 125o. Somewhere around 165o it begins to scorch and darken, at 185o, you're gonna have smoke rolling. And, you don't want to do flashpoint, beeswax makes for a helluva fire! When you get there it's about like diesel fuel.

    Just don't rush it. Grab a cup of coffee, or a shot of bourbon, or whatever, put it on, kick back with your drink, and meditate, while it melts. Knowing a little about beeswax, I'd run the temp up around 150 - 155o range before adding my BLO. Here the double boiler will help because it's a more even heat and temps won't fluctuate as bad when you add your oil.

     
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    Hey again rocky1,

    Yeah most of the folks warned about getting the wax too hot and one video did the melting in a skillet on a hot plate. I like the double boiler idea a lot better, would be easier to control the heat.

    :sick:are you telling me that you do not like the taste of burnt oil and wax?

    Have a great day,
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    I use a mini crockpot, the kind used to heat dips and queso, for the mineral oil/bees wax mixture I put on cutting boards. I’m guessing you can do the same with Linseed Oil. Heats up slow and you don’t mess up the wife’s kitchen tools. Just unplug and store it in the little pot. You can either heat it back up or use it more solid and cold depending on your finishing process. I start with a 1/3 bees wax 2/3 oil mixture and adjust as necessary. Easy to do since you never put it into a different container. You can get the thing for $20 or less.
     
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    Pretty sure even the scorched beeswax would taste better than the Boiled Linseed Oil... Know for a fact it would be safer if ingested.
     
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    Hello Tom,

    That is a great idea. How would you rate the cooled down mixture as far as hardness?

    Thanks and have a great day,
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    Softer than a paste wax consistency. You can push a finger into it.
     
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    Hello again Tom,

    That sounds like what I am looking for, I will give that a try. Found a crock pot on ebay 1.5 quarts and ordered it, will give it a try when it comes in. Thanks for all the help.

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    Sure, hope it works well for you.
     
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    Thomas, like Tom Smart, I do a beeswax/mineral oil finish on my cutting boards. I got an small sauce pan at Goodwill and warm it up on our stove. I use the lowest setting, warm I think, heat it up, apply it, let it cool down. I just keep it in the pan when I'm not using it. Like Tom said, consistency a bit softer than a paste wax. Good luck! Tony
     
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    Hello Tony,

    So you warm the mixture up to apply it, would that be back to a liquid state? What ratio do you use for your mixture?

    Have a great day,
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    Yes, I warm it up, makes it easier to apply and it soaks in better that way I believe. I use a 4 part oil, 1 part wax mix with a bit more wax. I put 3 coats on if that helps.
     
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    Hello Tony,

    OK a 4 to 1, I see it would be soft.

    Have a great day,
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    He's applying to cutting boards Thomas, and looking more for penetration than shine. Hence the 4:1 ratio and heating before applying.
     
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    Hey again rocky1,

    Roger that.

    I just applied some BLO and Beeswax via your method to the Cherry Wood call and it sure looks good. I would guess this is like a 1 to 1 mix. I will apply several more coats like this today.

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    Check this one out.
     
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    Hello Lou,

    Very professional video and I like the way he weighted each component.

    Thank you and have a great day,
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    Not a fan of BLO when there are better hardeners for beeswax . Damar varnish and beeswax is a old world mixture that drys quicker , harder .
     
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