Dismiss Notice
Woodbarter has upgraded to HTTPS. Please see click here for all the details.

TransTint

Discussion in 'The Charles Neil Finishing Forum' started by Adam Fausch, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. Adam Fausch

    Adam Fausch Member Full Member Thread Starter

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Lakeville MN
    First name:
    Adam
    I mixed some Transtint with some denatured alcohol that was supposed to prevent grain lift. But I am still getting a lot of grain lift. Am I doing something wrong?
     
  2. DKMD

    DKMD Sawbones Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Full Member

    Messages:
    10,369
    Likes Received:
    2,893
    Location:
    Enid, Oklahoma
    First name:
    David
    You might try raising the grain before the dye... DNA will raise the grain, and I keep a spray bottle near the lathe for that reason. Water works also, but the DNA dries faster.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. Adam Fausch

    Adam Fausch Member Full Member Thread Starter

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Lakeville MN
    First name:
    Adam
    I guess I am trying to prevent the grain raising. It seems to stay raised. And then is rough after. I have tried to sand it down to 220 and after it seems like it dries raised a little.
     
  4. Adam Fausch

    Adam Fausch Member Full Member Thread Starter

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Lakeville MN
    First name:
    Adam
    I am using the red dye and it is leaving the grain raised after applying. Is there a way to apply Transtint with out raising the grain like a traditional stain?

    image.jpg
     
  5. Tony

    Tony Hardwood Enthusiast Staff Member Global Moderator Full Member

    Messages:
    15,582
    Likes Received:
    4,519
    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    First name:
    Tony
    I have never worked with Transtint, I assume it's water based. On a scrap piece, do what you normally do, sand with the last grit you used but only enough to knock the grain down. A lot of times, people will sand too much on this last step and it renders it useless. Then re-stain the piece. Tony
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  6. DKMD

    DKMD Sawbones Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Full Member

    Messages:
    10,369
    Likes Received:
    2,893
    Location:
    Enid, Oklahoma
    First name:
    David
    I don't know of any way to keep the grain from raising, but if you'll pre-raise it with DNA then lightly sand with your last grit or one finer, I think you'll have better luck. You may still need to sand lightly after the dye, but it shouldn't take much.

    Also, I think going to a higher final grit helps with some wood.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. HomeBody

    HomeBody Member Full Member

    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    663
    Location:
    Findlay, IL
    First name:
    Gary
    I'm not sure about your tinting but removing the raised grain is easy. After you raise the grain, sand with a new piece of 320. Make sure you have a new piece. I sand once after raising it but some do it 2 or 3 times. Gary
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  8. Adam Fausch

    Adam Fausch Member Full Member Thread Starter

    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    Lakeville MN
    First name:
    Adam
    Thanks, I noticed after switching to a rag and then basically rubbing it in vs using a brush helps some. I will also try some fine sandpaper as well.

    Pushing yourself out of your comfort zone can be frustrating, but sometimes when done is worth it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  9. Jerry B

    Jerry B shop dawg Full Member

    Messages:
    622
    Likes Received:
    280
    Location:
    Boulder City, Nevada
    First name:
    Jerry
    anytime you apply any kind of liquid to wood, it will raise the grain,
    the benefit of using DNA or Lacquer Thinners are that they evaporate and dry much more quickly
    After staining (with TransTint & DNA) I use a scotchbrite pad instead of sandpaper,
    it gives the same end result, without removing much of the top coat that I just applied,
    and reduces the chances of having to re-stain in case I used too much pressure
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. barry richardson

    barry richardson Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator Full Member

    Messages:
    8,254
    Likes Received:
    2,924
    Location:
    Buckeye AZ
    First name:
    Barry
    I don't have a problem with alcohol based dyes raising the grain, but maybe cause it's so hot and dry here, it doesn't have a chance. But I mostly use Behlins', which they call NGR (non-grain raising) If you want a fool proof way to color your wood any color of the rainbow, use artist oils (not acrylics) get a tube of it from Michaels or any art store and, experiment, works like a champ. Better yet is if you know someone who is a painter, they usually have old and partial tubes they will give you... The only downside is it takes a couple of days to dry before you can final finish it...
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
Current Time: 1:37 AM