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Flutes and sawdust

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Mirabelle grows where I live too. One of my favourite carving woods. It dries very badly though. Really badly.
Any tips for drying it? I've got all my logs for drying in a spare room, but I don't have access to kiln or vacuum drying.
 
Any tips for drying it? I've got all my logs for drying in a spare room, but I don't have access to kiln or vacuum drying.
Seal ends and air dry for as long as possible. If you what you can steam it while it is still wet. This will help with drying and even out the colour. Check the bark often for insect intrusion. The beetles love it. Keep the bark on though. This helps with side cracking. End checks are unavoidable but can be minimised with the previous suggestions. Steaming especially works very well.
 
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Seal ends and air dry for as long as possible. If you what you can steam it while it is still wet. This will help with drying and even out the colour. Check the bark often for insect intrusion. The beetles love it. Keep the bark on though. This helps with side cracking. End checks are unavoidable but can be minimised with the previous suggestions. Steaming especially works very well.
I'd struggle to steam it too. I need to have another look at timber merchants in the area to see if any have the facilities. I'm also running out of room in my nook so it would be good to finish off some of the nearly dry pieces. I'll keep an eye on the mirabelle though. It's indoors so I hope less prone to bugs.
 
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Here's my latest batch of flutes. Left to right: kioty, jacaranda, elderberry, tauari vermelho, tinea, marri, Cuban laurel, doral, cherry plum, myrtle beech, Indian yellowheart and kayu malam. Kayu malam was species number 200!

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Here's a list of the woods I've done so far:
Acacia, African blackwood, African rosewood, Afrormosia, Afzelia (burl), Alaskan yellow cedar, Alder European, Almond, Amazaque, Amazon rosewood, American ash, American black walnut, American white oak, Andaman padauk, Angelim, Apple, Apricot, Argentine osage orange, Ash English, Atlas cedar, Australian red cedar, Avocado, Bamboo-leaved oak, Beech, Bhilwara, Birch European, Black and white (royal) ebony, Black chacate, Black cherry, Black limba, Black palmwood, Bloodwood, Blue mahoe, Bocote, Bois de rose, Branquilho, Brazilian cedar, Brazilian rosewood, Brazilian tulipwood, Brown ivory, Bubinga, Burma blackwood, Burma padauk, Burma rosewood, Camelthorn, Camphorwood, Canarywood, Castelo boxwood, Cedar of Lebanon, Chakte viga, paela, Chanfuta, Chechen, Cheesewood burl, Cherry, Cherry plum, Chinese toon ebony, Claro walnut, Cocobolo, Coconut, Cuban laurel, Cypress mediterranean, Damson, Deodar (Himalayan) cedar, Desert ironwood, Doral, Douglas fir, Eastern red cedar, Elderberry, Elm (wych elm), English (Turkish) walnut, Eucalyptus, False acacia, Freijo, Garapa, Gmelina, Greenheart, Hackberry spalted, Hau Hawaiian, Hawaiian ohia, Hawthorn spalted, Hemlock (western), Hinoki, Holly, Honduras mahogany, Honduras rosewood, Honey locust, Horse chestnut, Huon, Indian ebony, Indian yellowheart, Iroko, Itauba, Jacaranda, Jackalberry, Japanese larch, Japanese oak, Jarrah, Jatoba, Kamagong ebony, Karelian masur birch, Kayu malam, Kiaat, Kingwood, Kioty, Koa, Koto, Laburnum (golden chain), Lamtoro burl, Larch European, Laurel (burl), Lime, London plane, Macassar ebony, Macrocarpa, Mahogany, Mansonia, Maple American, Marri red gum, Masasa, Matumi, Meranti, Milk pear, Milo, Moabi, Monkeypod, Monkeypuzzle, Mopane, Muhuhu, Mulberry, Myanmar golden nanmu, Myrtle beech, Nargusta, Narra, Newtonia, North Indian rosewood, Northern white cedar, Oak (English), Oak sessile, Oiticica, Olivewood, Osage orange, Pacific yew, Padauk, Paldao, Panga panga, Paniculata, Parota, Pau rosa (Tanzania), Paulownia, Pear European, Persimmon, Peruvian walnut, Pheasantwood, Pink ivory, Pistachio, Plum (wild black), Port Orford cedar, Purpleheart, Pyinma, Quebracho, Queensland maple, Radiata pine, Raspberry jam wood, Redheart, Redheart, Rhodesian teak, Rose mahogany, Saligna gum, Sapele, Sassafras, Service tree, Shagbark hickory, Snakewood, Southern beech, Southern yellow pine, Staghorn sumac, Suren, Sweet chestnut, Sycamore maple, Tanga tanga, Tasmanian blackwood, Tatajuba, Tauari vermelho, Teak, Thailand rosewood, Thuya burr, Timborana, Tineo, Tulipwood, Tzalam, Verawood (Argentine lignum vitae), Virola, Wenge, Western myall curly, Western red cedar, White wenge, Wild mango, Xylia, Yarran, Yew, Zebrawood , Ziricote.
 
Here's my latest batch of flutes. Left to right: kioty, jacaranda, elderberry, tauari vermelho, tinea, marri, Cuban laurel, doral, cherry plum, myrtle beech, Indian yellowheart and kayu malam. Kayu malam was species number 200!

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Such an awesome array! And the collection of species you use is over the top impressive! Thanks for sharing your passion and talent! Chuck
 
Here's a list of the woods I've done so far:
Acacia, African blackwood, African rosewood, Afrormosia, Afzelia (burl), Alaskan yellow cedar, Alder European, Almond, Amazaque, Amazon rosewood, American ash, American black walnut, American white oak, Andaman padauk, Angelim, Apple, Apricot, Argentine osage orange, Ash English, Atlas cedar, Australian red cedar, Avocado, Bamboo-leaved oak, Beech, Bhilwara, Birch European, Black and white (royal) ebony, Black chacate, Black cherry, Black limba, Black palmwood, Bloodwood, Blue mahoe, Bocote, Bois de rose, Branquilho, Brazilian cedar, Brazilian rosewood, Brazilian tulipwood, Brown ivory, Bubinga, Burma blackwood, Burma padauk, Burma rosewood, Camelthorn, Camphorwood, Canarywood, Castelo boxwood, Cedar of Lebanon, Chakte viga, paela, Chanfuta, Chechen, Cheesewood burl, Cherry, Cherry plum, Chinese toon ebony, Claro walnut, Cocobolo, Coconut, Cuban laurel, Cypress mediterranean, Damson, Deodar (Himalayan) cedar, Desert ironwood, Doral, Douglas fir, Eastern red cedar, Elderberry, Elm (wych elm), English (Turkish) walnut, Eucalyptus, False acacia, Freijo, Garapa, Gmelina, Greenheart, Hackberry spalted, Hau Hawaiian, Hawaiian ohia, Hawthorn spalted, Hemlock (western), Hinoki, Holly, Honduras mahogany, Honduras rosewood, Honey locust, Horse chestnut, Huon, Indian ebony, Indian yellowheart, Iroko, Itauba, Jacaranda, Jackalberry, Japanese larch, Japanese oak, Jarrah, Jatoba, Kamagong ebony, Karelian masur birch, Kayu malam, Kiaat, Kingwood, Kioty, Koa, Koto, Laburnum (golden chain), Lamtoro burl, Larch European, Laurel (burl), Lime, London plane, Macassar ebony, Macrocarpa, Mahogany, Mansonia, Maple American, Marri red gum, Masasa, Matumi, Meranti, Milk pear, Milo, Moabi, Monkeypod, Monkeypuzzle, Mopane, Muhuhu, Mulberry, Myanmar golden nanmu, Myrtle beech, Nargusta, Narra, Newtonia, North Indian rosewood, Northern white cedar, Oak (English), Oak sessile, Oiticica, Olivewood, Osage orange, Pacific yew, Padauk, Paldao, Panga panga, Paniculata, Parota, Pau rosa (Tanzania), Paulownia, Pear European, Persimmon, Peruvian walnut, Pheasantwood, Pink ivory, Pistachio, Plum (wild black), Port Orford cedar, Purpleheart, Pyinma, Quebracho, Queensland maple, Radiata pine, Raspberry jam wood, Redheart, Redheart, Rhodesian teak, Rose mahogany, Saligna gum, Sapele, Sassafras, Service tree, Shagbark hickory, Snakewood, Southern beech, Southern yellow pine, Staghorn sumac, Suren, Sweet chestnut, Sycamore maple, Tanga tanga, Tasmanian blackwood, Tatajuba, Tauari vermelho, Teak, Thailand rosewood, Thuya burr, Timborana, Tineo, Tulipwood, Tzalam, Verawood (Argentine lignum vitae), Virola, Wenge, Western myall curly, Western red cedar, White wenge, Wild mango, Xylia, Yarran, Yew, Zebrawood , Ziricote.
Wow you have a lot. Any leftovers? There are some species that we see over here that you do not have so you will be able to expand that collection. @Friedrich9 has many Australian species though the shipping and taxes from America are high it might be worth it from your point of view.
 
Here's my latest batch of flutes. Left to right: kioty, jacaranda, elderberry, tauari vermelho, tinea, marri, Cuban laurel, doral, cherry plum, myrtle beech, Indian yellowheart and kayu malam. Kayu malam was species number 200!

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Beautiful. Does the length change the pitch or is that more dependant on hole spacing. I could look it up, but I figure you actually know rather than using theory.
 
I'd struggle to steam it too. I need to have another look at timber merchants in the area to see if any have the facilities. I'm also running out of room in my nook so it would be good to finish off some of the nearly dry pieces. I'll keep an eye on the mirabelle though. It's indoors so I hope less prone to bugs.
For small pieces, a clothes steamer and a section of PVC pipe with caps and about 3 or 4 holes drilled , to allow steam in, to allow steam out, and a condensate drain, will produce a properly steamed blank. Just need to steam for about an hour per inch. May not be worth the effort, but there it is...
 
For small pieces, a clothes steamer and a section of PVC pipe with caps and about 3 or 4 holes drilled , to allow steam in, to allow steam out, and a condensate drain, will produce a properly steamed blank. Just need to steam for about an hour per inch. May not be worth the effort, but there it is...
It is worth it for some species. Pear with a discolored heart and most prunus and sorbus species heavily profit from steaming both in dry-ability, work-ability and color though the grain is slightly muddied.
 
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Beautiful. Does the length change the pitch or is that more dependant on hole spacing. I could look it up, but I figure you actually know rather than using theory.
Thanks! The bore width and length have the most effect on the pitch. Wall thickness and the density of the wood also affect it. Exactly the same size of flute can come out in D, D# or E. I tune all of my flutes to a minor pentatonic, which is traditional for five-hole native American-style flutes.

'The book' on making this style of flute has schematics based on authentic Native American instruments and lots of experience!
 
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For small pieces, a clothes steamer and a section of PVC pipe with caps and about 3 or 4 holes drilled , to allow steam in, to allow steam out, and a condensate drain, will produce a properly steamed blank. Just need to steam for about an hour per inch. May not be worth the effort, but there it is...
Thanks, that suddenly seems doable, I'll see what I can put together. That size of PVC pipe would always be useful be wood-related things. I guess the pipe wouldn't need to take pressure if it has exhaust holes anyway - that's ÂŁ10 vs ÂŁ100!
 
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Wow you have a lot. Any leftovers? There are some species that we see over here that you do not have so you will be able to expand that collection. @Friedrich9 has many Australian species though the shipping and taxes from America are high it might be worth it from your point of view.
I'm getting together a proper trade post, which I'll post shortly with my full list. I have a box of bits ready to send out, but many more pieces I can cut spares out of (if I can find them!). I have about another 200 species in hand and many of those pieces are much bigger than I need. I'm also making a wishlist - there are a few species I'd realy like but I'll take anything I don't have.
I generally work with 1x1x12" spindles so I hope shipping back and forth won't be too expensive, but I'm looking for the real oddities now so it should be worth it.
 
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Here's a set of mini flutes I've just finished. These are with woods I could only get shorter pieces of.
Left to right: brown mallee burl, stone hopea burl, spindle tree, Guatemalan rosewood and chico zapote.
The tiny flutes in burls are right on the limit of my skills - the smaller features are much less forgiving.

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Mirabelle grows where I live too. One of my favourite carving woods. It dries very badly though. Really badly.
I just added a sample to the reference collection. The supplier provided an undersized sample (less than IWCS size). Guessing it is a challenge for bigger pieces. Or provider does not care as much.
 
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I just added a sample to the reference collection. The supplier provided an undersized sample (less than IWCS size). Guessing it is a challenge for bigger pieces. Or provider does not care as much.
My biggest cut piece is just over 3" diameter. But the main trunk of that tree must be nearly a foot across so 6 x 3" should be gettable. Depends whether people cut it straight down to blanks first or bother to keep larger samples. We like the trees but they've really grown big and fast here. In autumn they drop fruit that ferments in the corner of the garden:( So happy to do some trimming for these pieces!
 
Here's a set of mini flutes I've just finished. These are with woods I could only get shorter pieces of.
Left to right: brown mallee burl, stone hopea burl, spindle tree, Guatemalan rosewood and chico zapote.
The tiny flutes in burls are right on the limit of my skills - the smaller features are much less forgiving.

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Splendid group!
 
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I just added a sample to the reference collection. The supplier provided an undersized sample (less than IWCS size). Guessing it is a challenge for bigger pieces. Or provider does not care as much.
Here's the trunk of the plum tree behind our house. You'd even get a horizontal 6 x 3" out of that:)


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