I'd also buy scraps
Gabon Ebony $20,000 lot of GOLD! ***Ended***
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I few nice fly rod reel seat inserts, fingerboards and bridges in there. But $20k? Nope, can't do it.
I’m game for a share of $17,500 with 19 other members. $875 each gets you 10BF with scraps?
I honestly would be down, but i think $150/bf is too high for this volume. That's middle of the road pricing for small individual orders. Bell forests base price is $150/bf for orders of 4/4 under 10bf. At 200bf, bell forest is at $112.50/bf. Bell forest also isn't the cheapest supplier. I've gotten jet black KD gaboon as cheap as $21/bf, but that was obviously kind of a unique/rare deal and it came in the form of pen blanks lol.
His ask is $100/bf. I think that is fair pricing, though it will take time to find the right buyer for this volume of various sizes at that price. I suspect there is margin in it for someone, but if I wanted to try to make something on it (I dont) I'd want a good deal more discount for the float and the hassle of managing a lot of small sales. On the other hand, if there is a group of 20 or so that want a cut and are willing to work together (including 1 who is willing to manage the process (accept the wood, sort, send), those folks could get a pretty decent deal.
Yeah, that was my point exactly.
I did look around for prices on big pieces and they can be staggering. WAY more than $100/BF.
Good catch. I think I just saw him mention selling some for over $150/BF and assumed that was his price he was suggesting. Obviously I didn't do the simple math to realize he was actually selling for $100/BF, which I agree is a good price for a general purchase of that volume but not necessarily a good price for a reseller who will have selling costs.
I'd still be down to go in on it with a large group, but I suspect it'll be difficult to find 18 more people who also want to do it ha ha. It might be in his best interest to break it up into more marketable chunks. I personally would probably try to hold onto the extra wide and extra long stock to sell individually, as those can certainly command a premium.
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I really think it’s a phenomenal deal. And if someone is serious, I’m ready to do a deal right now. I’ll take the best offer I can get. And whoever facilitates the deal, can get rewarded bonus ebony. I really want this gone
This is a wonderful stash and of course as many here, I’m drooling over those pictures, having crazy ideas of pulling a trigger.
I’m sure this is a great deal for someone specializing in ebony and building custom, high end products. Unfortunately, that’s a very small group and likely they already have a supply chain in place.
As for someone selling wood, it would be so much work to unload it. Picture every piece, post it, deal with a sale, %fee to the platform, %fee to IRS, ship it.
Also, ebony is notorious for checking and there is risk involved that the wood gets worse over time.
Anyways, thank you for sharing and good luck.
I’m sure this is a great deal for someone specializing in ebony and building custom, high end products. Unfortunately, that’s a very small group and likely they already have a supply chain in place.
As for someone selling wood, it would be so much work to unload it. Picture every piece, post it, deal with a sale, %fee to the platform, %fee to IRS, ship it.
Also, ebony is notorious for checking and there is risk involved that the wood gets worse over time.
Anyways, thank you for sharing and good luck.
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Have you tried contacting the large exotic wood companies , like Cook Woods for an example?How about Ebay ? You could sell small amounts , and most likely make your 20 k very easy. I could do that for you, but I have a whole shop full of wood I am trying to sell
Cooks and others buy wholesale, sell retail. $100 bd ft is not wholesale.
Agreed. Figured $87.50 per board foot based on the wholesale volume might get a bit more traction from both makers and sellers (and hoarders of course). $17,500 net with shipping price covered by buyers but seller sorts & ships? I would be open to taking 8/bf at the same amount for picking rights. More for everyone to split and I only need a couple peaces.
Very interesting and just about 100 miles away. Humph…
Well, ten years ago, 10 years younger and motivated to move a lot of product and make some good $$, that time has past. Best of luck off loading and getting a fair price.
if anyone buys this and goes anywhere near Valdosta, let me know. I’d probably be interested in a small lot, 4-5 bf.
Well, ten years ago, 10 years younger and motivated to move a lot of product and make some good $$, that time has past. Best of luck off loading and getting a fair price.
if anyone buys this and goes anywhere near Valdosta, let me know. I’d probably be interested in a small lot, 4-5 bf.
if $87.50 is current wholesale price- then there should be an abundance of buyers... Might want to change 8bf
$10K for the lot if you throw in the scraps. I realize this is not what you are looking for but I am in business and it would be for resale.
I am highly impressed by your dedication to quality, particularly your hands-on involvement in re-sawing and meticulously marking each board of ebony. This level of personal oversight is commendable.
You did mention guitar building and I am in a network of luthiers where a group purchased can be had. But, to proceed with a potential large-scale purchase for guitar manufacturing, we would require detailed information about this exceptional stock. As a wood buyer responsible for sourcing materials for numerous luthiers, ensuring the quality, responsible harvesting, and legal compliance of the wood is paramount. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could clarify the following:
1. **Scientific Name:** Please provide the complete scientific name of the ebony species.
2. **Harvest Date:** What is the precise harvest date of this ebony stock?
3. **Seasoning Period:** How long has this ebony been seasoning, and what method was employed? Please specify the environment (temperature and humidity) in which the seasoning occurred.
4. **Drying Process:** Detail the drying method used (e.g., kiln-dried, air-dried).
5. **Moisture Content:** What is the current moisture content percentage of the boards?
6. **Grain Orientation:** Describe the sawing method used (e.g., slab sawn/flat sawn, rift sawn, quarter sawn). Provide a breakdown of the percentage of boards utilizing each method.
7. **Quartered/Quarter-Sawn Percentage:** What percentage of the stock is definitively quartered or quarter-sawn?
8. **Defect Assessment:** Please provide a comprehensive list of any defects present in the boards, including their type, location, and severity. This includes, but is not limited to, micro-checking. Given the susceptibility of ebony to checking and shrinkage, what guarantees can you offer regarding the absence of micro-checking and its long-term stability in varying humidity conditions?
9. **Density and Dimensions:** Would you be able for each board, to supply its dimensions (length, width, thickness)? Can you give one board dimensions with weight, allowing us to calculate the density per board foot?
10. **CITES Compliance:** Crucially, we require documentation confirming that this ebony is Gabon ebony and not a species listed on CITES Appendix II (such as Madagascar ebony or Malagasy ebony). This documentation is essential for customs clearance to prevent potential delays or seizure of any instruments utilizing this wood.
This information is vital for us to assess the suitability of your ebony for our production needs and to ensure complete compliance with all relevant regulations.
Arn
You did mention guitar building and I am in a network of luthiers where a group purchased can be had. But, to proceed with a potential large-scale purchase for guitar manufacturing, we would require detailed information about this exceptional stock. As a wood buyer responsible for sourcing materials for numerous luthiers, ensuring the quality, responsible harvesting, and legal compliance of the wood is paramount. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could clarify the following:
1. **Scientific Name:** Please provide the complete scientific name of the ebony species.
2. **Harvest Date:** What is the precise harvest date of this ebony stock?
3. **Seasoning Period:** How long has this ebony been seasoning, and what method was employed? Please specify the environment (temperature and humidity) in which the seasoning occurred.
4. **Drying Process:** Detail the drying method used (e.g., kiln-dried, air-dried).
5. **Moisture Content:** What is the current moisture content percentage of the boards?
6. **Grain Orientation:** Describe the sawing method used (e.g., slab sawn/flat sawn, rift sawn, quarter sawn). Provide a breakdown of the percentage of boards utilizing each method.
7. **Quartered/Quarter-Sawn Percentage:** What percentage of the stock is definitively quartered or quarter-sawn?
8. **Defect Assessment:** Please provide a comprehensive list of any defects present in the boards, including their type, location, and severity. This includes, but is not limited to, micro-checking. Given the susceptibility of ebony to checking and shrinkage, what guarantees can you offer regarding the absence of micro-checking and its long-term stability in varying humidity conditions?
9. **Density and Dimensions:** Would you be able for each board, to supply its dimensions (length, width, thickness)? Can you give one board dimensions with weight, allowing us to calculate the density per board foot?
10. **CITES Compliance:** Crucially, we require documentation confirming that this ebony is Gabon ebony and not a species listed on CITES Appendix II (such as Madagascar ebony or Malagasy ebony). This documentation is essential for customs clearance to prevent potential delays or seizure of any instruments utilizing this wood.
This information is vital for us to assess the suitability of your ebony for our production needs and to ensure complete compliance with all relevant regulations.
Arn
I have no clue what wholesale pricing is. Just meant because it’s a huge lot, to unload all at once might not be easy at $100. Quick search suggests retail is $110-$150 but this isn’t kiln dried and the quality is an unknown. Bulk purchase for retail gets a 10%-15% discount, dropping to a potential low of $93.50 at the bottom tier. Have to assume wholesale markup of 10%, so around $84.15, but probably less given the amount & potential for checking, breakage, loss. Hedged a little to cover variation in retail pricing and cover sellers time cutting & shipping. Still a good amount of capital and a good deal on the buyer side. Not sure if we have enough interested at that price to get it done though.
Maybe I should have worded differently. I buy burl in bulk. I have to find it, haul it, mill it, dry it and then market it. If I sell a dry perfect 12x12x6=18 lbs for $125, this is $7 lb. Retail. If I find, haul and load big chunks in crate 900 lbs x $3.50 lb. This is wholesale.
What does not matter- what another piece sold for. What does matter- what someone will give you for the whole 200 bd ft.
Selling all at once is convenient, for you, that covinence comes at a cost... comparing one single piece price to 200 bd ft price is not helpful.
Not a buyer at this time. My money usually supports my round wood addiction.
You have a good offer.
Good luck.
And nice offering.
On road tomorrow, bringing this 4500 lb stick home.
Nice stick, how bout it @Big Ry ? See what I was saying about burls...