Making this up as I go along, Will I have a leg to stand on?
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These tops aren't going to be large enough to support a well rounded backside so I don't think anything wild will happen on them. I'll go with about that for the base. Glad I made them long, you can always cut something down but really hard to make it longer if you change your mind.
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So six weeks later I decide I'm ready to put up with another round of harassment from the crazy Hawaiian and Little Leprechaun, I'm sorry "Vertically Challenged Irishman" (Seriously though, waiting on pen parts so I figured I'd work on a few uncompleted projects)
@ripjack13 - Here's how I decided to stabilize the lids and make them into tables. To answer a question you asked earlier about preserving the char, I srcub them down with a coarse scotch brite pad while using the vacuum to keep all the loose stuff from ending up all over. I'll seal it well with several coats of poly and it'll be there to see but not transfer to your hands
First I took a piece of oak, used a stick with two holes and a pencil and finishing nail to draw a 19 inch radius on the board ends, cut on bandsaw, sanded, routed a bevel on them and set on top of the backside of the lid.
Then I wrap the lid with a strap clamp to pull it together as much as possible and drill holes for the screws. I forgot to take a photo but I also sand clean the area under the reinforcement and use some glue as I do this. Start in the middle with the screws and work out to either end.
I thought about taking the lid apart and jointing all the edges to give a really tight fit but heck, these are tables using beat up barrel heads and it'd screw up the outside edge and I'd have to do lots of work to get a good circle again. You'll have a few slight gaps here and there but again, These are beat up barrel lids
Then the leg assembly, Made some supports to give a solid attachment to the top. Drilled pilot holes, used screws and glue and then plugged the holes.
Cut off all the plugs, sanded everything down and added adjustable leveling feet, I can make stuff dead flat on my surface plate but when it gets to the end user it seems the floor is almost always not flat. Using those feet on stuff like this has eliminated house calls to fine tune stuff for their floors.
They'll get a finish on them in the next week or so if I can find time and then I need to find a rich drunk, Er, Well heeled bourbon connoisseur to buy them. Unless of course my wife decides she wants them.
C and C are welcome. Yes, I know you can see the plugs, I made a personal decision long ago that in almost all of what I do, pins or plugs I want them to contrast and stand out a bit as opposed to hiding them with matching wood. I guess I just like the look and it gets people asking about how things are put together.
@ripjack13 - Here's how I decided to stabilize the lids and make them into tables. To answer a question you asked earlier about preserving the char, I srcub them down with a coarse scotch brite pad while using the vacuum to keep all the loose stuff from ending up all over. I'll seal it well with several coats of poly and it'll be there to see but not transfer to your hands
First I took a piece of oak, used a stick with two holes and a pencil and finishing nail to draw a 19 inch radius on the board ends, cut on bandsaw, sanded, routed a bevel on them and set on top of the backside of the lid.
Then I wrap the lid with a strap clamp to pull it together as much as possible and drill holes for the screws. I forgot to take a photo but I also sand clean the area under the reinforcement and use some glue as I do this. Start in the middle with the screws and work out to either end.
I thought about taking the lid apart and jointing all the edges to give a really tight fit but heck, these are tables using beat up barrel heads and it'd screw up the outside edge and I'd have to do lots of work to get a good circle again. You'll have a few slight gaps here and there but again, These are beat up barrel lids
Then the leg assembly, Made some supports to give a solid attachment to the top. Drilled pilot holes, used screws and glue and then plugged the holes.
Cut off all the plugs, sanded everything down and added adjustable leveling feet, I can make stuff dead flat on my surface plate but when it gets to the end user it seems the floor is almost always not flat. Using those feet on stuff like this has eliminated house calls to fine tune stuff for their floors.
They'll get a finish on them in the next week or so if I can find time and then I need to find a rich drunk, Er, Well heeled bourbon connoisseur to buy them. Unless of course my wife decides she wants them.
C and C are welcome. Yes, I know you can see the plugs, I made a personal decision long ago that in almost all of what I do, pins or plugs I want them to contrast and stand out a bit as opposed to hiding them with matching wood. I guess I just like the look and it gets people asking about how things are put together.
Awesome! Tony
Very cool. Those legs are cool looking too. Nice job Colin.
Very cool tables dude! Those are sweet!!
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I like the inlaid pattern on the legs but if I get more lids and do more tables I think I'll just use a single 8/4 stick. It was a bunch of putzing and I don't know if it adds that much....
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It's been a bit but I finally got them finished. Had a call last night from a potential customer but they decided not to as they were 2 inches too tall for the space they were thinking of (I honestly think they didn't like the price and wanted an excuse to bail but that's their problem. I know what I have into them and the quality of the build so I'll hold out for the right customer)
3 coats of satin Poly and then rubbed out. I didn't take it too far as I wanted the tops to really show they were used barrel heads with the associated dings and patina.
C and C are welcome.
3 coats of satin Poly and then rubbed out. I didn't take it too far as I wanted the tops to really show they were used barrel heads with the associated dings and patina.
C and C are welcome.
Very nice Colin! I built a coat rack for the house out of Mesquite that is that exact design for the feet. Looks great, I'm sure they'll sell. Tony
Look awesome in my book, but looking across the top of the table in the second picture I foresee a lot of spilled drinks in a bar environment. That might be a no-sale point for someone looking at replacing drinks and cleaning up the mess.
Nah - that's an attribute. Colin is a good enough salesman to make point but I don't see bars as his market anyway. He can sell them to individuals at a much higher price point than the pain and hassle of dickering with an establishment looking for a huge price break on 50 or 100 of them.
Colin I think those would cross over markets better than selling at a woodworking trade show. I'd stay out of woodworking shows. Go to beer and liquor shows - brewery conventions etc. maybe even high fidelity shows (something you could even talk while there). Now you just need to get a steady supply of barrel tops. Have you contacted the various makers?
I would think if there is a home-brew supply store near you that would be a good contact point to find customers. Tony
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I see what you're saying but I actually took a glass of water and tested them out, it looks worse in the photo for some reason. I could have planed a few spots but then I'd have cut into the stamp and fargled the patina. If someone really wanted a glass flat surface I suppose I could chuck one up on the lathe, turn round and border it and then pour in that tabletop epoxy but of course they'd pay significantly more for them
Exactly what I was thinking. Rocky was just trying to poo-poo your idea as he is want to do.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Rocky was just trying to poo-poo your idea as he is want to do.
First, It's properly spelled Wont when used in that context. Second, Of course he was trying to poo-poo it, Isn't being full of it a requirement here at Woodbarter?
First off, want is a generally accepted slang of the lesser used (and properly used) wont as you correctly point out. Second off, your upper case "I" in the word "isn't" is incorrectly applied since it comes in mid sentence after a comma. Last off, yes being full of it goes a long way here.
Colin, looks good, the only thing that looks off to me is the mounting plate to the lid (table top). Your first picture makes it look as if it sticks out a bit. If it is too complicated to adjust the round-over angle, could you shorten the mounting plate by one inch or so and have the edges stepped in the split difference? I would step it in so that the lid with mounting plate attached could theoretically fit within the original barrel. A symmetry thing I guess. But if you enjoy them, who cares?