Phillipine ebony burl

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It's one of the many ebonies that have "macassar ebony" as one of its MANY common names, but I don't think it's what is normally referred to as macassar ebony. It's also called Ceylon ebony (and Sri Lanka ebony) since that's one of the places it grows, along w/ the Philippines. That's all I got.
It is definitely not Macassar ebony or Ceylon ebony- it is “Kamagong” (locals also refers to it as “mabolo” because of the associated fruit that it bears, kind of like a fuzzy haired Georgia peach that we have here in the US). It only grows and indigenous to the Philippines- it is very hard and very dense. It is traditionally use as a fighting stick in the art form of martial arts, “Arnis or Eskrima” specifically to the Philippines. The thing is that Macassar ebony also grows there and people can confuse the two. There are vendors out there in parts of Asia like Thailand, Indonesia, etc. that markets what they sell as “kamagong”- it does not grow in any other parts of Asia period. It gets more confusing as these are commonly refer to as “ironwood or as ebony”. It is a true “diospyros”. All this information I am stating here are facts.

I have travelled to the Philippines several times and visited a lot of furniture showrooms and guitar builders where you will see an all solid wood dining room sets (other forms of furniture type) made from these and guitars built from this wood. There was also a large showroom here in SoHo NYC that showcased a lot of Asian made furniture- they had a dining room, living room and settees. They tend to be more predominantly black with streaks and not the black and tan typically confused about this species. This species is also restricted by Philippine government and PI forestry department because of exploitation and over harvesting. I have actually a log that was brought here back by a GI (west coast) that was stationed in the Philippines (Clark Air base) back in the 80’s. He freighted as much as he could and he had some beauties- he had a burl that was like 250 pounds and it was blackish brown with streaks in it.
 
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Kamagong is a name used by numerous ebony species, many of which also have Ceylon ebony as common names.

Diospyros blancoi
Diospyros discolor (synonym Diospyros philippensis which is different than Diospyros philippinensis)
Diospyros ebenum
Diospyros inclusa
Diospyros melanoxylon
Diospyros mindanaensis
Diospyros philippinensis
Diospyros poncei
Diospyros pyrrhocarpa


mabolo is a common name used by at least 32 different species, including 5 ebony species:

Diospyros blancoi
Diospyros discolor
Diospyros everettii
Diospyros montana
Diospyros poncei


The intersection of those two common names includes
Diospyros blancoi
Diospyros discolor
Diospyros poncei

But I THINK it's just Diospyros poncei in this case and if so, then it is indeed not Ceylon ebony.

The only common names I have for Diospyros poncei are
ebony, philippine (philippines)
kamagong
mabolo (philippines)
kamagong, ponce (philippines)

SO, @Arn213 thank you for that additional information
 
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what were you sawing to kink the blade. I bet it was not a square piece of wood.
Warped Red oak onion burl that was slabbed 3 years ago. Must of had some tension. Bigger issue is my lack of looking first, he had on a 3/16ths scroll blade, not the 1/2" he usually has on.
 

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Just saw this post/thread. Mike, will you be posting any of this incredible burl for sale/trade? I'd love to get a small piece for a pen blank.

Thanks.
I will be back cutting it in September. Hit me up then.
 

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I will be back cutting it in September. Hit me up then.
Hey Mike. Just a friendly reminder ... not to forget me when you cut up this ebony burl this month. I've only been on Wood Barter for a few weeks now, and even in just that short time I've seen how quickly wood goes, so I wanted to make sure I'm on your list. Thanks!
 

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I will revisit this in next two week.
Here's a pen from this burl.
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And I believe there's a good chance this is Diospyros blancoi, which has SG of around .88, pretty close to 1. And maybe burls are generally denser and heavier than non-burl heartwood? This Philippine ebony burl sinks:

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Beautiful wood.

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