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Saw chain blues

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I am currently experiencing a bit of a perplexing situation. Having survived the zombie apocalypse, I mean covid, the great change shortage, the great resignation, and the Russian army making a fool of itself, I know find that there is an apparent Nationwide saw chain shortage.
Anyone else having this issue or am I alone? A roll of 3/8 hi pro in .50 guage is touching $1000. Almost double in price from a year ago.
Here I sit with a 36" and 42" that I can't use due to lack of replacement chain. Anyways, just thought I would ask. And rant a bit.....
 
I am currently experiencing a bit of a perplexing situation. Having survived the zombie apocalypse, I mean covid, the great change shortage, the great resignation, and the Russian army making a fool of itself, I know find that there is an apparent Nationwide saw chain shortage.
Anyone else having this issue or am I alone? A roll of 3/8 hi pro in .50 guage is touching $1000. Almost double in price from a year ago.
Here I sit with a 36" and 42" that I can't use due to lack of replacement chain. Anyways, just thought I would ask. And rant a bit.....
Have a 42 myself but don't get to play with it enough to wear out the chain ...
 
It's like everything else, shortages in everything. Right now for me it's motorcycle tires, none to be had in the size I need. The lawn mower shop I used to work at has shortages in most everything, some things are non existent.
 
There are several perspectives here. Change shortage, I have friends that work in 6 different banks and I asked most of them why there was a shortage. They each said they saw no evidence of it but were told by corporate that is was actual, so they told the customers such. And they limited the use of it. Our post office was forbade to get change from local banks, so they did have issues.

There has been no real shortage on battery powered chainsaws, but a shortage on the batteries the run them. The new bigger gas saws have microchips in the fuel system so the user can no longer work on them. The chip shortage made a saw shortage. The heating fuel prices have risen by 40-70%, so this raised the demand for saws because so many turned back to wood. Electric prices in many places have risen 10-40%, double whammy, another reason to turn to wood. So demand for saws has risen, supply has dropped and costs go up. Sad simple economics. As for the chains, much of it is simply price gouging. Walmart wages going to be double minimum wage here, that has a ripple effect. I'll stop there to avoid political issues.
 
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Have a 42 myself but don't get to play with it enough to wear out the chain ...
I don't either. Truth be told I don't use it unless I have to. However, last winter I was slicing up a sizeable oak and found a t post. A common problem here. Thought I was ok with that tree but you just never know. Fences come and go and trees tend to grow in fence rows. They eat those t posts you see. Anywho, now I have an oak on that ground all in the way and most of the Mills I deal with have kindly asked that I not bring them any more logs that size. Some not so kindly. But that guy is a........well, you get the idea.
 
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There are several perspectives here. Change shortage, I have friends that work in 6 different banks and I asked most of them why there was a shortage. They each said they saw no evidence of it but were told by corporate that is was actual, so they told the customers such. And they limited the use of it. Our post office was forbade to get change from local banks, so they did have issues.

There has been no real shortage on battery powered chainsaws, but a shortage on the batteries the run them. The new bigger gas saws have microchips in the fuel system so the user can no longer work on them. The chip shortage made a saw shortage. The heating fuel prices have risen by 40-70%, so this raised the demand for saws because so many turned back to wood. Electric prices in many places have risen 10-40%, double whammy, another reason to turn to wood. So demand for saws has risen, supply has dropped and costs go up. Sad simple economics. As for the chains, much of it is simply price gouging. Walmart wages going to be double minimum wage here, that has a ripple effect. I'll stop there to avoid political issues.
I agree. Almost a whiff of conspiracy in the air.......
Those chips in the saws are removable as well as the emissions nonsense. Or so I have heard...... :unknown:
I haven’t bought any chains in years, but I really like the selection at Bailey’s:
Yep. I like Bailey's. Good outfit and I expect the route I will have to take.
Still a kick in the teeth. I have to buy a premade chain, with resulting cost increase, instead of having one custom made by supporting my local shop. On whom I depend.
 
I agree. Almost a whiff of conspiracy in the air.......
Those chips in the saws are removable as well as the emissions nonsense. Or so I have heard...... :unknown:

Yep. I like Bailey's. Good outfit and I expect the route I will have to take.
Still a kick in the teeth. I have to buy a premade chain, with resulting cost increase, instead of having one custom made by supporting my local shop. On whom I depend.
Why not buy a hundred feet and still let them assemble to your saw?
 
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Why not buy a hundred feet and still let them assemble to your saw?
I have been leaning that direction. Trouble is that the big saws use bigger guage. I'm not so hot on buying 2 rolls of chain that will most likely out live me. If I was a full on commercial logger, it would make sense. But being a winter hobby, I just don't go through it fast enough.
 
I have been leaning that direction. Trouble is that the big saws use bigger guage. I'm not so hot on buying 2 rolls of chain that will most likely out live me. If I was a full on commercial logger, it would make sense. But being a winter hobby, I just don't go through it fast enough.
Are your saws all the same drive sprocket setting? If so is it cheaper to get matching gauged bars? Other wise maybe go for one spool of the higher use chain and a couple pre-made loops for the other. Our Stihl dealers stopped making custom loops 15 or more years ago. Claimed corporate policy and liability reasons.
 
Our Stihl dealers stopped making custom loops 15 or more years ago. Claimed corporate policy and liability reasons.
That's bs, any competent saw shop will still cut chain from a roll and make them to size. Most shops are lazy or can't find anyone with enough brains to make chains. It's easier to just order a chain by size and sell it that way. He'll I have the gear to make my own chains and I. Just a hobbies. All you need is a chain breaker and a rivet spinner. Got mine from Baileys.
 
That's bs, any competent saw shop will still cut chain from a roll and make them to size. Most shops are lazy or can't find anyone with enough brains to make chains. It's easier to just order a chain by size and sell it that way. He'll I have the gear to make my own chains and I. Just a hobbies. All you need is a chain breaker and a rivet spinner. Got mine from Baileys.
That's funny, competent saw shop. We do have one just 42 miles away. We have a few hobby guys local. We also have 20 or more loggers locally that have their own spools and tools.
 
We've nobody around here who knows much about saws/chains/sharpening. They will sell you a saw, but stock nothing but anti kickback chains and give you weird looks if you ask about different tooth options.

I taught my nephew-in-law to hand sharpen, but he's too lazy to do it himself. Takes his chains to local Stihl dealer for sharpening and averages 3-4 sharpening before the teeth are gone and he needs to buy new. Typical of that generation that has more money than sense!
 
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Are your saws all the same drive sprocket setting? If so is it cheaper to get matching gauged bars? Other wise maybe go for one spool of the higher use chain and a couple pre-made loops for the other. Our Stihl dealers stopped making custom loops 15 or more years ago. Claimed corporate policy and liability reasons.
At the moment, no. This has not been an issue before, you see. I have an old poulan 25 with a 16" bar that uses the same chain as my 395xp felling saw. I can tell you why they went to smaller chain on non pro saws! So, I have to muck through for now until things straighten back out.
 
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We've nobody around here who knows much about saws/chains/sharpening. They will sell you a saw, but stock nothing but anti kickback chains and give you weird looks if you ask about different tooth options.

I taught my nephew-in-law to hand sharpen, but he's too lazy to do it himself. Takes his chains to local Stihl dealer for sharpening and averages 3-4 sharpening before the teeth are gone and he needs to buy new. Typical of that generation that has more money than sense!
I hear you. I have hand filed for years. Even considered getting a breaker and spinner to make my own. Fear of my neighbors finding out prevents me.
 
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We've nobody around here who knows much about saws/chains/sharpening. They will sell you a saw, but stock nothing but anti kickback chains and give you weird looks if you ask about different tooth options.

I taught my nephew-in-law to hand sharpen, but he's too lazy to do it himself. Takes his chains to local Stihl dealer for sharpening and averages 3-4 sharpening before the teeth are gone and he needs to buy new. Typical of that generation that has more money than sense!
Maybe that it the silver lining here. People will have to learn. Or go without. Both are handy skills to have.
 
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More saw chains = less trees to hug??? Maybe?
Ah, a conspiracy emerges! Good point. It could be hippies. Some of those Woodstock hold overs. Or lizzad people. It could be lizzad people! But, you know, now that I think on it. It is most likely a coalition of woke, hippie, transgender, sasquatch's!
 
Ah, a conspiracy emerges! Good point. It could be hippies. Some of those Woodstock hold overs. Or lizzad people. It could be lizzad people! But, you know, now that I think on it. It is most likely a coalition of woke, hippie, transgender, sasquatch's!
Nawwwww – ain’t that at all!

It’s the Curly Koa Hamadryads!


It’s a hedonic tale of unrequited love. One evening while passing by a tree, you will hear a sigh. It will seem that the tree could speak! You might feel your knees go weak. Like a siren’s song, the whisper causes you to linger and lay down upon the shaded ground. It will be as if that tree had cast a spell on you! But it is not the tree! With words of poetry, you will be wooed. Leaves brush over your tingling skin, and you might even tremble deep within. You have just ensnared yourself into the intricate web of intimacy woven by the wanton, libertine Dryad of Curly Koa! – a three-thousand-year-old wood nymph who eats men’s souls.

Bewitched from the moment you set eyes on her. Her long, slender trunk trails past the ivy and moss that enrobes her sinewy steel-gray bark. You are mesmerized observing the shadows brushing across the supple undulations of her well-muscled trunk, teasing you with the promise of good things that hide beneath. You stare past the ends of her branches, brown and bushy, waiting to bud. You can sense the moon, dripping its pale liquid light over the forest pool creating a pool of golden pleasure. Her shining reflection kisses the waters of the pools edge – the water understands. There is the overwhelming scent of damp soil and decaying leaves that pervades your very essence. In the quietness and cold of the night, there are no leaves to make music – only the teasing, almost bare branches that seem like daggers to the soul. They tell a story of a forlorn heart, much like a bride’s, that desires to live in a state of love and free of the burdens she has borrowed. ‘Let’s live here,’ you might be able to gasp out! She becomes the fondest evocation of nascent spring – the wood nymph wild!

However, this is Woodbarter, and you might ask; “Why all this passionate nonsense?” Why would you get lured into a woodland glade only to be seduced and enraptured, you ask? Has not the exact thing happened to hundreds, if not thousands of men? There is but one answer – Existence. Without the life source that she finds in woodworking men, she cannot exist. On her own, her soul lacks, she does not possess tranquility – she desires something and only nature has it! Nature could have given her everything she could have ever wanted, but…..full of desire, she has to reach out and capture. Each capture is not eternal, though. When they ask for a beer, flop down in the recliner, she knows another night is over before is has begun. The rot sets in and no amount of resin can make it solid once again.

When y’all finally settle in and are free of all the distractions of modern life, y’all will have a serious talk about forest conservation. She will deem it most important that you know that her interest aligns with the fact that cutting down trees releases the souls she’s trapped inside them, thus depleting the source of her immortal life force. You see, she is not just a normal, human girl who cares very much about trees and doesn’t possess the power to summon the dark creatures of the forest to do her bidding. She might put her soft, luminous skin on one leg at a time each morning just like the next girl -but……

It’s happened to me 17 times already!!

Now wasn’t that better than a boring story about tree-huggers?
 
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