Selection of Australian woods for trade/sale

[daveflutes]

I have a new set of Australian woods that I will have spare of. First dibs goes to @SA-Motors and @Big Ry for our current trades, but they're all fairly big pieces.

I'm hoping to trade for any woods I haven't got but I could also sell. Do consider that I'm in the UK when adding in shipping.



They are (row by row)
Yapunya | White hazel
King Billy pine | Ivory needlewood
Supplejack | Whitewood
Satin box | Mystery ironwood

I'll also have a big slab of gum Arabic next time I see my brother (about 84 x 21 x 6 cm).

These are the sizes (in mm) and *suggested* Latin names - this is only what I've looked up as the probable species, so correct me if I'm wrong. I was only given common names.

Ironwood	????	625 x 135 x 20
King William pine	Athrotaxis selaginoides	610 x 145 x 40
Native hazel/white hazelwood	Symplocos stawellii	610 x 105 x 45
Satinbox	Nematolepis squamea	640 x 120 x 30
Supplejack	Ventilago viminalis	485 x 145 x 25
Supplejack		635 x 145 x 25
Yapunyah	Eucalyptus ochrophloia	625 x 115 x 40
Yapunyah		335 x 120 x 40
Ivory needlewood	Hakea ivoryi	485 x 180 x 43
Whitewood	Atalaya hemiglauca	645 x 160 x 30

Let me know if you're interested in pieces or need more info. I'll be cutting them for flutes and at least for Steven, so if you just need a spindle or bowl blank that should be fine.

 

[daniscool]

I have a new set of Australian woods that I will have spare of. First dibs goes to @SA-Motors and @Big Ry for our current trades, but they're all fairly big pieces.

I'm hoping to trade for any woods I haven't got but I could also sell. Do consider that I'm in the UK when adding in shipping.

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They are (row by row)
Yapunya | White hazel
King Billy pine | Ivory needlewood
Supplejack | Whitewood
Satin box | Mystery ironwood

I'll also have a big slab of gum Arabic next time I see my brother (about 84 x 21 x 6 cm).

These are the sizes (in mm) and *suggested* Latin names - this is only what I've looked up as the probable species, so correct me if I'm wrong. I was only given common names.

Ironwood	????	625 x 135 x 20
King William pine	Athrotaxis selaginoides	610 x 145 x 40
Native hazel/white hazelwood	Symplocos stawellii	610 x 105 x 45
Satinbox	Nematolepis squamea	640 x 120 x 30
Supplejack	Ventilago viminalis	485 x 145 x 25
Supplejack		635 x 145 x 25
Yapunyah	Eucalyptus ochrophloia	625 x 115 x 40
Yapunyah		335 x 120 x 40
Ivory needlewood	Hakea ivoryi	485 x 180 x 43
Whitewood	Atalaya hemiglauca	645 x 160 x 30

Let me know if you're interested in pieces or need more info. I'll be cutting them for flutes and at least for Steven, so if you just need a spindle or bowl blank that should be fine.

You could open up a seperate ID thread for the ironwood.

 

[Big Ry]

I'm definitely interested in the ironwood. I'm generally interested in any harder and/or heavier woods, so yes to Satinbox, Yapunyah, and Supplejack as well. I assume that Gum Arabic = Acacia Senegal? If so, yes to that as well.

Do you know the hardness of the needlewood and whitewood? I find some info saying Atalaya hemiglauca is quite dense. If this is accurate, its of interest to me for sure. I would take King Billy Pine for its relative obscurity, but its probably not of much use to me on projects. I almost bought some this spring from a UK dealer but decided against it due to price.

Regarding trades you need, I noticed you were trading with Fred for some species that I also have but that we somehow overlooked during our initial trade agreement. So I guess I need to look back at your wanted list. Is that up to date, or are there species that you want which are not on that list?

 

[daveflutes]

@Big Ry I don't have anything on the needlewood or whitewood, other than they're heavy! If you can wait for me to do the flutes I can tell you more...I can get rough densities.

I'm assuming the gum Arabic is Vachellia nilotica (was Acacia nilotica). It's a wide plank and dark red so that seems to match best.

I'll update my lists. For convenience I had a list of all the TWD poster woods I was missing, but I'd also take anything I haven't got. It will take a bit of sorting, so maybe the back end of the week.

@daniscool I'll get some decent photos of the ironwood, probably once I've got it machined

 

[Big Ry]

@Big Ry I don't have anything on the needlewood or whitewood, other than they're heavy! If you can wait for me to do the flutes I can tell you more...I can get rough densities.

I'm assuming the gum Arabic is Vachellia nilotica (was Acacia nilotica). It's a wide plank and dark red so that seems to match best.

I'll update my lists. For convenience I had a list of all the TWD poster woods I was missing, but I'd also take anything I haven't got. It will take a bit of sorting, so maybe the back end of the week.

@daniscool I'll get some decent photos of the ironwood, probably once I've got it machined

I roughly use 2000lbf as a threshold for "hard", but that's very loose. Really, anything about 800lbf and up is hard enough to work for most of my projects. I don't often use woods softer than that. I'll occasionally use rainbow poplar or sycamore because of their unique beauty, but they frustrate me with how delicate they are.

You can use a common species as a reference for gauging the hardness of the needlewood and whitewood. Not sure what species are common among US and UK, but I'd say anything softer than black walnut or soft maple is probably not of much interest to me unless it's rare/obscure or really cool looking lol.

That gum Arabic sounds good. Either way, i don't think that species is readily available over here.

No rush on the list. I'm on vacation right now through July 6th, so I'm not cutting or shipping anything lol. I'm still working to put together a list of the species i own, but i keep getting set back by the fact that i keep buying new species lol. I estimate i have at least 400 but maybe upwards of 500+ now.

I'll also be cutting down some ornamental trees on my property in the next couple months. We're redoing our entire landscape, and some of the trees need to go. They're expected to start demo in late August, so I'll need to get the trees i want out by then. I'm not sure about in the UK, but over here you seldom see these trees milled up for lumber. I'll be cutting down a hawthorn, callery pear (has fire blight), weeping cherry (trunk and branch wood are different species), saucer magnolia, red Japanese maple, green Japanese maple, and two that i tentatively have ID'd as serviceberry. I plan to try to get confirmation on all. I'm going to take a lot of photos of each tree before felling them. There are some ornamental evergreens coming out too, which may prove to be interesting looking wood if that emerald green arborvitae is any indication. I was actually surprised that the arborvitae had fairly attractive grain and was quite chatoyant.

 

[daniscool]

I roughly use 2000lbf as a threshold for "hard", but that's very loose. Really, anything about 800lbf and up is hard enough to work for most of my projects. I don't often use woods softer than that. I'll occasionally use rainbow poplar or sycamore because of their unique beauty, but they frustrate me with how delicate they are.

You can use a common species as a reference for gauging the hardness of the needlewood and whitewood. Not sure what species are common among US and UK, but I'd say anything softer than black walnut or soft maple is probably not of much interest to me unless it's rare/obscure or really cool looking lol.

That gum Arabic sounds good. Either way, i don't think that species is readily available over here.

No rush on the list. I'm on vacation right now through July 6th, so I'm not cutting or shipping anything lol. I'm still working to put together a list of the species i own, but i keep getting set back by the fact that i keep buying new species lol. I estimate i have at least 400 but maybe upwards of 500+ now.

I'll also be cutting down some ornamental trees on my property in the next couple months. We're redoing our entire landscape, and some of the trees need to go. They're expected to start demo in late August, so I'll need to get the trees i want out by then. I'm not sure about in the UK, but over here you seldom see these trees milled up for lumber. I'll be cutting down a hawthorn, callery pear (has fire blight), weeping cherry (trunk and branch wood are different species), saucer magnolia, red Japanese maple, green Japanese maple, and two that i tentatively have ID'd as serviceberry. I plan to try to get confirmation on all. I'm going to take a lot of photos of each tree before felling them. There are some ornamental evergreens coming out too, which may prove to be interesting looking wood if that emerald green arborvitae is any indication. I was actually surprised that the arborvitae had fairly attractive grain and was quite chatoyant.

Serviceberry has very prominent berries. If it is you should be able to see the beginnings by now.

 

[Big Ry]

Serviceberry has very prominent berries. If it is you should be able to see the beginnings by now.

I don't think any of the trees except the callery pear produce fruit. I'm not sure if that's due to improper trimming or because they're dioecious, but we've been here almost 5 years and I've never seen fruit on any of them except the pear and only when the pear was more healthy than it currently is. Most don't even produce flowers - the weeping cherry and saucer magnolia being the only exceptions (though their flowers only last a week at most). The hawthorn seems to be pretty conclusive. Everyone agrees it's a hawthorn, and it's got some branches with the telltale thorns. Japanese maples are definitely accurately ID'd, and my mom even knows the specific types of each...i just don't remember what they were off hand. My mom used to do landscape design, so she's familiar with common ornamental plants in this region of the US. Probably the biggest question mark are the ones I'm calling serviceberry. I'll need to do more research on those to confirm.

The picture below show the two trees I'm calling serviceberry

 

[daveflutes]

That's an amazing variety you have in your back garden @Big Ry ! I'd happily have a spindle of each, though I have done serviceberry. I hope the work all goes well.

The seller I got these from has currently another piece each of a few of these, and I'm happy to trade any beyond a couple of spindles for myself. I should be able to accommodate most requests!

I've started a cutting list and I'll hopefully get going later in the week.

 

[Big Ry]

That's an amazing variety you have in your back garden @Big Ry ! I'd happily have a spindle of each, though I have done serviceberry. I hope the work all goes well.

The seller I got these from has currently another piece each of a few of these, and I'm happy to trade any beyond a couple of spindles for myself. I should be able to accommodate most requests!

I've started a cutting list and I'll hopefully get going later in the week.

The "serviceberry" are pretty small size as you can see, so it may not be possible to avoid pith with those. I have no idea what kind of wood quality to expect from them, so that might be a little bit of a gamble lol. Maybe someone here happens to recognize and have used this tree before and can speak to this particular subject. Otherwise, you might have to resin stabilize if the pith is junk. The other trees are plenty big to get pith-free blanks.

 

[SA-Motors]

Hi @daveflutes Those woods look great! Would it be possible for you to cut and set aside a spindle blank of the satinbox and whitewood for me? If possible can you cut the whitewood piece for me from the side of the board that includes the darker heartwood I see in the photo so I could get some of that darker grain in the piece? If not, no worries, I would still like a piece of it. This would be great if you could add these 2 to the set you are preparing for me! Thank you!

 

[SA-Motors]

@Big Ry You have some interesting woods on your property! I've turned spindles from southern magnolia, cucumber magnolia and sweetbay magnolia, but not familiar with saucer magnolia. Sounds interesting. Good luck with your landscaping! Should be fun!

 

[Big Ry]

@Big Ry You have some interesting woods on your property! I've turned spindles from southern magnolia, cucumber magnolia and sweetbay magnolia, but not familiar with saucer magnolia. Sounds interesting. Good luck with your landscaping! Should be fun!

Yeah I'd say that's probably not a definite ID either, but it is a common ornamental tree in this area. I do have a blank of cucumber magnolia i could compare against, but its probably better to ID from the bark and leaves anyway. From my understanding it's not easy to differentiate cucumber magnolia and poplar, and they aren't even from the same genus.

 

[Friedrich9]

@daveflutes hi I’d be interested in the native hazel. Possibly the eucalyptus also. I’m finally starting to cut your flute blanks today. I’ll see what stuff I can dig out. I unfortunately am starting another down sizing so plenty of stuff will be getting carried past my bandsaw

 

[daveflutes]

@daveflutes hi I’d be interested in the native hazel. Possibly the eucalyptus also. I’m finally starting to cut your flute blanks today. I’ll see what stuff I can dig out. I unfortunately am starting another down sizing so plenty of stuff will be getting carried past my bandsaw

No problem, any particular size good for you?
Thanks for getting mine cut, no rush.