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What Is A Barber Chair?

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It also helps if they have a big enough saw and know how to sharpen it. Bringing your electric chainsaw out with the safety chain on it to fell trees is like bringing a knife to a gun fight, chances are you'll lose. When in doubt let one of us loggers that know what we are doing and have the experience handle the tree cutting PLEASE.

I disagree. If you had taken your own advice you would never have become a logger yourself. Everyone starts somewhere. As long as someone seeks proper training and conscientiously educates themselves they can become safe, effective loggers. And "having a big enough saw" is relative and often overrated.
 

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I see your point but some of us are born loggers and a lot never will be. I have had a good share of training green horns and have seen some really bad accidents ( +1 death) and even being experienced have had a lot of close calls even when you do as you should. There is not a lot of room for operator error. And I still feel home owners with questionable trees beyond there comfortable capability should have someone experience handle them for them.
 

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Todd, at WB we help each other out. I'm a member of numerous logging and forestry forums but I rarely post on them because loggers, more than most groups, seem to have some axe to grind (see what I did there). Most loggers especially the young ones still full of testosterone want to bring this attitude that they are some elite group of warriors that others must worship and bow down to. We don't have that kind of attitude here because most of us are grown men who see through that bullshite. The vast majority of the younger men here may not have our experience, but they have the humility and respect and willingness to learn that it takes to become good at anything they attempt.

The idea that someone is "born a logger" is funny and made me shirk at the thought of the poor mother giving birth to a baby with a running chainsaw in its hands. :scare3:

Anyone with an IQ above 90 can be trained to be a safe effective logger. In fact, many of the loggers I've been around probably had an IQ closer to 60. :wacko3:
 

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Kevin you took it all in a bad way maybe my words were not chosen so not to offend the softer at heart and in no way said anything of being elite and deserving any worship or to make any feel ignorant. I am in no way saying the trade can't be learned but needs to be respected with some common sense which is a trait lost by a lot. Not into arguing and having someone interpret and put words in my mouth as someone should be worshiping them. Stay safe guys just don't want to see anyone get hurt over a tree.
 

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I still don't get the resemblance to a barber chair. Barber chairs are pretty cool - they spin around, can be levered up and down, are generally very comfortable to sit in what with their foot rest and all. One certainly cannot sit on or in that leaning broken tree, while it does have some coolness about it - it can spring apart and rip your head off. Maybe it should be called a "jammed grain auger" or "my uncle's cantankerous old bull" or something.
 

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I still don't get the resemblance to a barber chair. Barber chairs are pretty cool - they spin around, can be levered up and down, are generally very comfortable to sit in what with their foot rest and all. One certainly cannot sit on or in that leaning broken tree, while it does have some coolness about it - it can spring apart and rip your head off. Maybe it should be called a "jammed grain auger" or "my uncle's cantankerous old bull" or something.

The best explanation I can offer is to ask you to consider what came up with the name . . . . . some logger's brain. :whatever:
 

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I found a video last night...crazy how fast things happen...about 30 seconds into the video.
 

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He didn't even have a proper under cut so you knew right off he has had no training either professional or even self taught. The gov site below shows two proven methods of falling leaners. The first method shown is for preventing side tear out - the second method is known in the industry as a coos bay cut (the one using the "triangle" cut). The bottom plunge cut method is more widely used and is the one I use mostly when falling leaners although I did use a coos bay cut on a nightmare humongous hollow cedar once to great effect (that I documented on a logging forum).

https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/logging/manual/felling/cuts/special_techniques.html
 
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