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I grew up on a farm in Tennessee where if you saw a wire on an insulator mount, you assumed it was hot. If it wasn't your house, you just didn't mess with the fence. It's that simple. If you got shocked on the neighbors electric fence, you kept your mouth shut or someone would kick your behind for being somewhere you didn't belong. We had hot wired garden fence and the only thing we did was listen carefully at night to see if we could hear the coons squalling when they headed to get the corn...
 
2feathers Creative Making said:
I grew up on a farm in Tennessee where if you saw a wire on an insulator mount, you assumed it was hot. If it wasn't your house, you just didn't mess with the fence. It's that simple. If you got shocked on the neighbors electric fence, you kept your mouth shut or someone would kick your behind for being somewhere you didn't belong. We had hot wired garden fence and the only thing we did was listen carefully at night to see if we could hear the coons squalling when they headed to get the corn...
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I agree that if you don't live there and get a shock, you shouldn't have been there if you weren't invited. But, when everyone uses, "but, the children", it changes the narrative. ............ Nubs
 
Nubsnstubs said:
I can't believe you asked that, Doug. With today's laws, you need to put a sigh somewhere, possibly every so many feet along any fence that is wired. At least here in Arizona you had better do that. With that small? fence you mentioned, you might only need one sign. And, who gives a crape about what the neighbors think about you trying to protect the stuff on your property. .............. Nubs
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For sure there's the risk of getting sued. We have people around the neighborhood who regularly comment "but the deer were here first". I reply "so were the rocks, sagebrush, and junipers and you don't seem concerned they were all ripped out to build your house". I'll probably stick with my sling shot anyway.
 
2feathers Creative Making said:
We are starting a patch of elephant garlic . Only have a half dozen starts so I let mine bloom and plan to let the scapes mature and attempt to seed out a much larger patch. We shall see how this works... I will also dig and separate the cloves when the leaves die back. That should be the only time I need to leave the scapes on. We use a whole lotta garlic so I decided to take my chances.
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Keep us posted on how it turns out.
 
Eric Rorabaugh said:
I wouldn't care what my neighbors thought but where I live is different and I'm an a hole so....
But on your e fence, spread a Lil peanut butter on it (as long as you don't have dogs. If the neighborhood has run at large dogs, they'll learn pretty quick). The deer lick that, get a shocking welcome and don't come back.
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Just add to that, once the deer get shocked, they stay away from anything that looks like an electric fence wire. Had to put electric fence around strawberries to keep coons and deer away. Raspberries are near there, and the deer always browsed the top tender growth. Until, that is, I added a wire trellis for them. Deer think that is electrified too, and haven't touched them since.

As neighbors, their pets, etc. electric fence is legal as long as you aren't McGuivering something with line voltage.

They also make stakes with a little solar cell and shock surface on the top. Uses an attractant chemical to attract the deer, shock them and they learn to stay away from the area. Since you have power near there, I'd get a little fence charger, bait with PB and zap them.

Search for wireless deer fence for the stakes. I see a few that are battery powered as well.
 
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trc65 said:
Just add to that, once the deer get shocked, they stay away from anything that looks like an electric fence wire. Had to put electric fence around strawberries to keep coons and deer away. Raspberries are near there, and the deer always browsed the top tender growth. Until, that is, I added a wire trellis for them. Deer think that is electrified too, and haven't touched them since.

As neighbors, their pets, etc. electric fence is legal as long as you aren't McGuivering something with line voltage.

They also make stakes with a little solar cell and shock surface on the top. Uses an attractant chemical to attract the deer, shock them and they learn to stay away from the area. Since you have power near there, I'd get a little fence charger, bait with PB and zap them.

Search for wireless deer fence for the stakes. I see a few that are battery powered as well.
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By line voltage you mean 110V? Sounds like deer retain memory and don't return, once shocked. How about other varmints like squirrels, possum, rabbits, etc.? Chuck
 
Nature Man said:
By line voltage you mean 110V? Sounds like deer retain memory and don't return, once shocked. How about other varmints like squirrels, possum, rabbits, etc.? Chuck
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Yes. Used to occasionally hear about some moron who did that and killed dogs, calves, etc.

An electric fence operates in the thousands of volts (~5000-10,000), but most importantly only 100-200 milliamps. The "jolt" is also at a very short duration to prevent injury. That low amperage won't harm most animals, but I do occasionally find a dead bird.

As to how well small animals learn and remember getting shocked, I don't know. When I'm protecting berries or sweet corn the fence is always on. Just don't trust raccoons.
 
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