Classic!!!
A true Texas fact
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Some memories are very vividly joyful, while the current reality is bittersweet. Back in "the day" - there was a Thursday night place to go in Aggieland if you wore boots, big belt buckles, big cowboy hats, liked drinking longnecks, and liked holding purdy wimmen while you danced to CW bands. It was named Lakeview. Here's proof. Sometimes Lil Mikey only had $3 to his name and could only get in and have 2 beers. But still a great time. Even got to dance with a Miss Texas and Miss USA - (same girl) one time. He melted in his boots!
Out of curiosity, I looked it up to see if still there. It was, but the pics only showed some pink hairs, a leopard skin wearing DJ on the stage - well also a number of mariachi bands and wedding decorations. Can't believe Lakeview needs a CW upgrade!
Out of curiosity, I looked it up to see if still there. It was, but the pics only showed some pink hairs, a leopard skin wearing DJ on the stage - well also a number of mariachi bands and wedding decorations. Can't believe Lakeview needs a CW upgrade!
In my days, just a couple years later, our dance hall was the Hall of Fame, or better known as the “Hall of Shame.”
Looking back, I missed wonderful opportunities being the shy, skinny guy that didn’t learn to dance soon enough in my college years but also missed incredible concerts such as Ronnie Milsap, Jerry Jeff Walker, and many others of the early 80s era. But fond memories for sure.
Looking back, I missed wonderful opportunities being the shy, skinny guy that didn’t learn to dance soon enough in my college years but also missed incredible concerts such as Ronnie Milsap, Jerry Jeff Walker, and many others of the early 80s era. But fond memories for sure.
The only concerts I can remember were in the old G. Rollie White. Willie, Olivia Newton John, TG Shepherc, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Asleep at the Wheel, Jerry Jeff Walker, Tanya, Waylon, David Allen Coe, Moe Bandy, Riders in the Sky (they opened for somebody - maybe Willie). These are the only ones I remember, and did not make all of those as Lil Mikey couldn't afford all of them. Do not remember any of the rock and roll commie concerts, but sure there were quite a few. Oh, and did get to hear Lyle Lovett and Robert Earl Keen playing on their front porch a few times.
When I was in college there was a place called the Trocadero down at Elitches Amusement park. It was a big band dance hall, open sided, lots of lights, a stage on one end. People like Harry James and Tommy Dorsey played there. Even though this was in the 70's and we were college kids into rock, it was cool to go there and experience the big bands and watch people who truly knew how to dance. I especially liked seeing older couples who had been dancing together for many years - they weren't fast, but they moved as one. Pretty cool. I think the Troc is gone now.
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For decades they've been holding Big Band Dances at our Centennial Park - outside under a pavilion roof with no sides. All local bands. As you mentioned - really, really fun watching the people who truly know how to dance! Unfortunately they hold them in July and August - much too hot for my wife, and we don't go anymore. She never learned to dance, only shake and swivel to the beatles. Have never been able to get her to take lessons so we could dance at the park.
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And they still had the big concerts there @Mike Hill one of the best was when 3 gigantic tractor-trailer rigs pulled with murals on the side for Charlie Daniels. Lots I didn’t see but became a Parrothead at G. Rollie.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw Johny Bush...
Ray Wylie in this area.
Gordie and the Goolaks at El Fiesta! or the Crystal Chandelier. He was a classmate and he dropped the Gordie part of their name and was only the Goolaks for a long time. I don't remember who used to play at St. Hedwigs, but I sure fell in love there many times. Pre-1975 Gruene Hall, was full of rickety tables and hay bales with a few holes in the roof you could see the moon through. But it had some good local bands (don't remember names). In 1975 the Molaks bought it and prettified it a bit. I think when they reopened Asleep at the Wheel was the band - but over the years has hosted the big names like George Strait, Willie, Garth, and the like.
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One of my regrets is not seeing Charlie Daniels in concert. Especially since he lived around hereabouts. Did hear him live a few times for a song or two. He even played a couple of songs at a Nashville Predator game before they got all hip-hop and such.
There will probably be be no one who has ever heard of them, but for me it was "Pork and the Havana Ducks". Saw them everywhere from State fairs, small concert venues, bars, hog roasts, and even once at a former rural grade school where they played on the tiny little stage in the gymnasium.
This was mostly around central Illinois, but Pork would have fit right in down south.
This was mostly around central Illinois, but Pork would have fit right in down south.
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I think I found my Christmas Gift for the year!
This year’s game got tough with UGA pounding them. They will want to play spoiler.
Texas border changes over the years. The current borders have been in place since the 1930's.
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I'm thinking we need to reverse the downsizing!
I'm not sure I can spot the difference between the first 3 maps. Is there a difference? Or is the true Texas fact being depicted simply that Texans repeat themselves a lot.
Let me help you with this.
- Texas as an Independent Republic - 1836-1845
- Annexation to the United States as a state - 1845-1848 - essentially the same as #1
- Compromise of 1850 - Parts of Texas were broken off to become parts of what is now New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming. The Federal government paid Texas $10 M and assumed debt.
- Adjusted to current in 1930
Never have I understood the whole OK panhandle thing. (also have never researched or read about it - that I can remember). Maybe OK wanted an easement so they could get to NM without having to drive across TX?
I recently read this. I did not research the accuracy of it.
THE EVOLUTION OF TEXAS' BORDERS...
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...from its time as an independent republic (1836–1845) to its final shape as a U.S. state is one of the most dramatic territorial changes in American history. Here’s a step-by-step breakdown with the key maps and dates.
1. Texas as an Independent Republic (1836–1845)
Declared independence: March 2, 1836
Recognized by U.S., France, Britain, etc.: 1837–1840
Claimed boundaries (extremely ambitious):
– North: to the 42nd parallel (halfway up present-day Wyoming)
– West: all the way to the Rio Grande’s headwaters (including Santa Fe and parts of modern New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming)
– East: roughly the current eastern border
– South: Rio Grande
This “Republic of Texas” claim covered about 385,000 square miles (larger than modern France + Germany combined), but effective control was limited to roughly the area east of the Nueces River and San Antonio.
2. Annexation to the United States (1845–1848)
Annexed as a state: December 29, 1845 (28th state)
Texas kept its public lands (unlike other states) but brought its huge debt and border disputes with Mexico.
Mexican-American War (1846–1848) settled the southern/western border at the Rio Grande.
3. The Enormous Texas of 1845–1850
When Texas entered the Union, its legal boundaries were still the old Republic claims.
Included:
– All of modern Texas
– Eastern half of New Mexico (including Santa Fe)
– Southwestern corner of Kansas
– Southeastern corner of Colorado
– Extreme southwestern Oklahoma Panhandle
– A big chunk of southeastern Wyoming
This made Texas by far the largest U.S. state (approx. 385,000 sq mi).
4. Compromise of 1850 – Texas Sells Its Northern and Western Claims
Texas was bankrupt after the war with Mexico.
Federal government paid Texas $10 million (the “Texas Debt Relief”) plus assumed its debt.
In exchange, Texas ceded all territory north of 36°30′ and west of 103° (and a panhandle strip).
Territories ceded became parts of: New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming.
Texas’s new northern boundary became roughly its present one (except the Panhandle).
Result after 1850: Texas reduced to about 262,000 sq mi (still huge).
5. Minor Boundary Adjustments 1850–1930
1850s–1890s: Surveys refined the exact line along the Red River (northern border) and 103rd meridian (Panhandle western border).
1896: U.S. Supreme Court case (United States v. Texas) confirmed Greer County, Oklahoma belonged to Oklahoma Territory, not Texas.
1914–1930: Red River boundary disputes finally settled; the river’s shifting course caused decades of litigation. The current border follows the vegetation line on the south bank (not the river channel itself in some places).
Final Modern Shape (post-1930)
Area: 268,596 sq mi (2nd largest state after Alaska)
Panhandle added in the original Republic claim was kept because it was south of 36°30′.
Current borders have remained unchanged since the 1930s.
THE EVOLUTION OF TEXAS' BORDERS...
******************************************
...from its time as an independent republic (1836–1845) to its final shape as a U.S. state is one of the most dramatic territorial changes in American history. Here’s a step-by-step breakdown with the key maps and dates.
1. Texas as an Independent Republic (1836–1845)
Declared independence: March 2, 1836
Recognized by U.S., France, Britain, etc.: 1837–1840
Claimed boundaries (extremely ambitious):
– North: to the 42nd parallel (halfway up present-day Wyoming)
– West: all the way to the Rio Grande’s headwaters (including Santa Fe and parts of modern New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming)
– East: roughly the current eastern border
– South: Rio Grande
This “Republic of Texas” claim covered about 385,000 square miles (larger than modern France + Germany combined), but effective control was limited to roughly the area east of the Nueces River and San Antonio.
2. Annexation to the United States (1845–1848)
Annexed as a state: December 29, 1845 (28th state)
Texas kept its public lands (unlike other states) but brought its huge debt and border disputes with Mexico.
Mexican-American War (1846–1848) settled the southern/western border at the Rio Grande.
3. The Enormous Texas of 1845–1850
When Texas entered the Union, its legal boundaries were still the old Republic claims.
Included:
– All of modern Texas
– Eastern half of New Mexico (including Santa Fe)
– Southwestern corner of Kansas
– Southeastern corner of Colorado
– Extreme southwestern Oklahoma Panhandle
– A big chunk of southeastern Wyoming
This made Texas by far the largest U.S. state (approx. 385,000 sq mi).
4. Compromise of 1850 – Texas Sells Its Northern and Western Claims
Texas was bankrupt after the war with Mexico.
Federal government paid Texas $10 million (the “Texas Debt Relief”) plus assumed its debt.
In exchange, Texas ceded all territory north of 36°30′ and west of 103° (and a panhandle strip).
Territories ceded became parts of: New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming.
Texas’s new northern boundary became roughly its present one (except the Panhandle).
Result after 1850: Texas reduced to about 262,000 sq mi (still huge).
5. Minor Boundary Adjustments 1850–1930
1850s–1890s: Surveys refined the exact line along the Red River (northern border) and 103rd meridian (Panhandle western border).
1896: U.S. Supreme Court case (United States v. Texas) confirmed Greer County, Oklahoma belonged to Oklahoma Territory, not Texas.
1914–1930: Red River boundary disputes finally settled; the river’s shifting course caused decades of litigation. The current border follows the vegetation line on the south bank (not the river channel itself in some places).
Final Modern Shape (post-1930)
Area: 268,596 sq mi (2nd largest state after Alaska)
Panhandle added in the original Republic claim was kept because it was south of 36°30′.
Current borders have remained unchanged since the 1930s.