Greveana is one of my favorites. Purpurascens can be really pretty also. I think I have 9-10 positively identified. I’ll have to start another thread once I get a bit of time. Got a 6 days of 10 hour shifts starting tonight, so might be a few days
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I've always wanted to find some purpurascens! not easy over here! Of the madagascan species I have baronii and greveana, plus of course bois de rose. I am not entirely sure whether I have maritima and louvelii - probably a bit of both. I need to get the pieces out and check the end grain.
Yeesh, 10hr shifts and 6 days of them! Thats a hefty week!
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Hi @Friedrich9 no problem, I'm just getting back on track too. My hand has had the wires out and bandages off and I nearly have a couple of flutes finally finished!
I'll dig out my list again and send it on. A sliver of waddywood would be lovely if it works out.
Also @Big Ry I haven't forgotten you either. My Octopus order with your last two pieces has been shipped but it always takes a while from Turkey. I'd also been trying to get a couple of woods they didn't have listed. I'll let you know when the pistachio and cornelian cherry arrive.
Those two Dalbergias look great! I do like seeing the different types. I have a piece of 'hupeana' that frankly could be anything, I really should check it more closely. I also have a nice chunk of D frutescens coming that I'm really pleased about. I also got some greveana recently though it's going to take a glue up to get a flute.
I'll dig out my list again and send it on. A sliver of waddywood would be lovely if it works out.
Also @Big Ry I haven't forgotten you either. My Octopus order with your last two pieces has been shipped but it always takes a while from Turkey. I'd also been trying to get a couple of woods they didn't have listed. I'll let you know when the pistachio and cornelian cherry arrive.
Those two Dalbergias look great! I do like seeing the different types. I have a piece of 'hupeana' that frankly could be anything, I really should check it more closely. I also have a nice chunk of D frutescens coming that I'm really pleased about. I also got some greveana recently though it's going to take a glue up to get a flute.
Its all good. I haven't gotten through prepping your pieces anyway. I have been trying to clean and reorganize my shop, so its been torn apart as I move in new drawers and cabinets and rearrange things to get more space. I still have a router table and scroll saw that have been sitting sealed in their box for a solid year. I need to finally get that stuff out so I can use it! In the process of organizing my wood, Ive also been working on a spreadsheet to track my collection just like you have. At this point its a necessity. Ive barely scratched the surface and am up to 40-50 species. I think I'll have 300-400 by the time I get through it all.
I have the Mgurure and Thuya blanks set aside and ready to go. I have a piece of Matt's Smoke Tree set aside to cut up for you. I also grabbed a prime piece of Eastern White Pine to go along with the not-so-prime piece from the tree in my side yard. The stuff is dirt cheap here, so I just bought a board from Lowes ha ha. It is definitely EWP and not SYP or S-P-F or some other "whitewood". I can easily get you a few knot-free blanks from that board. I'll have to go back to our list for the rest of the species we discussed, but suffice it to say Ive made no further progress on them since we lasts spoke about it ha ha
Yes you did hear peuce. I’m hoping to get a bowl blank and several 2-2.5” diameter branches. It’ll determine what I end up doing with my larger log. I cleaned up the end grain the other day to make sure it had that purpleish hue Peuce has.
Wow. I do vaguely remember you expressing interest in some buckthorn. I think I still have to cut some common buckthorn but I have the glossy. If we do end up making a trade, I have been trying to get my hands on peuce for years.
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@Friedrich9 just getting myself up to date. This is what I currently have for you.
Here's my slightly outdated list of woods that I have or have had, again if anything piques your interest:
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Here's a loose wishlist of what you've got that I could use. These are woods on the TWD poster that I don't have, but if you have any other interesting Australian woods I'm also in. I've flagged a few if you want some sort of shortlist, but I'd take whatever you can spare for a fair trade or trade/sale.
| Wood | Size | Weight | ||
| African birch | 300 × 112 × 50mm | 11 ⅞" × 4 ⅜" × 2" | 1934 g | 4.26 lbs |
| Guayacan | 152 × 102 × 32mm | 6" × 4" × 1 ¼" | 639 g | 1.41 lbs |
| Parba | 22 × 150 × 57mm | ⅞" × 5 ⅞" × 2 ¼" | 1505 g | 3.32 lbs |
| Black palmira | 530 × 69 × 24mm | 20 ⅞" × 2 ¾" × 1" | 1011 g | 2.23 lbs |
| Leatherwood | 295 × 165 × 37mm | 11 ⅝" × 6 ½" × 1 ½" | 1362 g | 3.00 lbs |
| Turkey oak | 315 × 210 × 45mm | 12 ⅜" × 8 ¼" × 1 ¾" | 1868 g | 4.12 lbs |
| Kenthao ironwood | 185 × 180 × 65mm | 7 ¼" × 7 ⅛" × 2 ⅝" | 2468 g | 5.44 lbs |
| 10.8 kg | 23.8 lbs |
Here's my slightly outdated list of woods that I have or have had, again if anything piques your interest:
Wood Barter wood list.xlsx
Here's a loose wishlist of what you've got that I could use. These are woods on the TWD poster that I don't have, but if you have any other interesting Australian woods I'm also in. I've flagged a few if you want some sort of shortlist, but I'd take whatever you can spare for a fair trade or trade/sale.
| Common name | Botanical name | TWD | Priority |
| Formosa Koa | Acacia confusa | AUS | 1 |
| Ironwood wattle | Acacia excelsa | AUS | |
| Acacia mangium | Acacia mangium | P | |
| Black Wattle | Acacia Mearnsii | AUS | |
| Waddywood | Acacia Peuce | AUS | 1 |
| Spear wattle | Acacia rhodoxylon | AUS | |
| Boonaree | Alectryon oleifolius | AUS | 1 |
| Red Alder | Alnus rubra | NA | |
| Aus Red Ash | Alphitonia excelsa | AUS | |
| Espave | Anacardium excelsum | CA | 1 |
| Mersawa burl | Anisoptera costata | P | |
| King Billy pine | Athrotaxis selaginoides | AUS | |
| Cancharana | Cabralea cangerana | SA | |
| Australian cypress | Callitris columellaris | AUS | |
| Rosita/Santa Maria | Calophyllum brasiliense | CA | |
| Hawaiian Kamani | Calophyllum inophyllum | P | |
| Belah | Casuarina cristata | AUS | |
| Barba de jolote | Cojoba arborea | CA | |
| Yellow sassafras | Doryphora sassafras | AUS | |
| NG walnut | Dracontomelon mangiferum | P | |
| Kapur | Dryobalanops aromatica | P | |
| Cooktown ironwood | Erythrophleum chlorostachys | AUS | |
| Yellow river Gum | Eucalyptus Leucoxylon | AUS | |
| Brown top Eucalyptus | Eucalyptus obliqua | AUS | |
| Swamp Mahogany | Eucalyptus robusta | AUS | |
| Sydney Blue Gum | Eucalyptus saligna | AUS | |
| Salmon gum | Eucalyptus salmonophloia | AUS | 1 |
| Gimlet Eucalyptus | Eucalyptus salubris | AUS | |
| Wandoo | Eucalyptus wandoo | AUS | 1 |
| Ulin | Eusideroxylon zwageri | P | |
| Tamo Ash | Fraxinus mandshurica | ASIA | 1 |
| Borneo Rosewood | Gluta spp | P | |
| Ramin | Gonystylus spp. | P | |
| Southern SilkOak | Grevillea robusta | AUS | |
| Rubber wood | Hevea brasiliensis | P | 1 |
| Black Ironwood | Krugiodendron ferreum | CA | |
| Brush Box | Lophostemon confertus | AUS | |
| Red Bauhinia | Lysiphyllum carronii | AUS | |
| Sapodilla / Zapote | Manilkara zapota | CA | |
| Mora | Mora excelsa | SA | |
| Black Stinkwood | Ocotea bullata | AFR | 1 |
| Black Ironwood/ Cape Olive | Olea capensis | AFR | 1 |
| Indonesian Nyatoh | Palaquium spp. Payena spp. | P | 1 |
| Celery top pine | Phyllocladus aspleniifolius | AUS | |
| NZ Totara | Podocarpus totara | AUS | |
| Silver poplar | Populus alba | E | 1 |
| Weeping willow | Salix babylonica | ASIA | 1 |
| True sandalwood | Santalum album | ASIA | 1 |
| Warma/ Guyana rosewood | Swartzia benthamiana | CA | |
| Manni | Symphonia globulifera | AUS | |
| Makore | Tieghemella heckelii | AFR | 1 |
| Lacebark Elm | Ulmus parvifolia | ASIA | 1 |
| Siberian red elm | Ulmus pumila | E | 1 |
| Gum Arabic | Vachellia nilotica | AFR | 1 |
| Shittim | Vachellia seyal | AFR | 1 |
| Solomons queen Ebony | Xanthostemon melanoxylon | P | |
| Mangkono | Xanthostemon verdugonianus | P | 1 |
| Tigre caspi | Zygia cataractae | SA | 1 |
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And @Big Ry Here's what I currently have for you:
| Common | Botanical | Source | Get | Status |
| Knob thorn | Senegalia nigrescen | Dalmann UK | 2x2x18" from Dalmann | Got |
| Masasa | Dalmann UK | 2x2x18" from Dalmann | Got | |
| Milk pear | Dalmann UK | 2x2x18" from Dalmann | Got | |
| Mulumanhyma | Dalmann UK | 2x2x18" from Dalmann | Got | |
| Newtonia | Dalmann UK | 2x2x18" from Dalmann | Got | |
| Cornelian cherry | Cornus mas | Octopus | 1.75 x 1.75 x 15" from Octopus | Ordered |
| Pistachio | Pistacia lentiscus | Octopus | 1.5 x 1.5 x 18" from Octopus | Ordered |
| Snakewood | Acacia xiphophyllum | cut 1 x 3 x 11" ish | Need to cut | |
| Ekki | 450 x 75 x 50mm | Got | ||
| Ekki | 450 x 65 x 50mm | Got |
That all looks good to me.
I just measured everything to see exactly what I can get out of the pieces I have. Let me know if any of those ones under 12" are a problem. The Mgurure and 3 Thuja blanks are already cut and packed. The most promising piece of Thuja hasn't been cut yet. For the rest of the species, in some cases I'm limited by length and not by width. But if I can only do 12" long, does extra width benefit you at all or are you just going to turn it down to 1" anyway?
| Common | Botanical | Requested Size | Available Size(s) |
| Mgurure | Combretum schumannii | 1.5 x 1.5 x 12" | 1.5 x 1.5 x 12" (prepped and ready) |
| American holly | Ilex opaca | 1 x 1 x 12" - 3 pcs or eq in board | (2) 1x1x11 knotty, (1) 1x1x10 5/16" knotty, 5/4 measures exactly 1.25", 4/4 measures exactly 1" |
| Eastern white pine | Pinus strobus | 1.5 x 1.5 x 18" | 1.5 x 1.5 x 18" lower grade from my property, 1x1x12 prime grade (I'll cut a couple for you) |
| American sycamore | Platanus occidentalis | 3 x 13/16 x 18" | 3 x 13/16 x 18" (currently trying to source some 8/4 sycamore, if so Ill give you a 1.5x1.5x18) |
| Gombeira, Brazilian ebony | Swartzia stipulifera | 1 x 1 x 12" | Measures exactly 15/16", so I can do 15/16" x 15/16" x 12", or I can provide 3x15/16x18 for glued-up full size flute |
| Brazilian ebony | Swartzia tomentosa | 1 x 1 x 12" | Can do 1.5x1.5x18 instead of 1x1x12 if you want |
| Emerald Green Arbortitae | Thuja occidentalis 'Smaragd' | 1.5 x 1.5 x 18" | 1" x 1" x 12" (QS), 1.5" x 1.5" x 16 7/8" (center pith & knotty), 1 1/2" x 1 5/16" x 18" (QS at edge of pith), should be able to get close to 1.5x1.5x18 with the last piece I haven't milled yet |
| Flame birch | Betula alleghaniensis | 1 x 1 x 12" | Measures 15/16" - 1", so should be able to get a solid 1x1x12 |
| Alligator juniper | Juniperus deppeana | 3/4 x 3/4 x 8" or 2 @ 1x1x6? | Can do (1) 1" x 1" x up to 9" OR (2) 1x1x6. Might be able to get 3/4x3/4x8 form another piece |
| Box elder | Acer negundo | 1 x 1 x 12" | Measures 1", so should be able to get a solid 1x1x12 |
| White miranti | Shorea spp. ?hypochra | 1 x 1 x 12" ish would be great | Lamination layers are not consistent thickness. Might be able to get a couple 3/4x3/4x8 solid blanks, otherwise it'll have to include a glue joint. |
| Valencia orange | Citrus sinensis | 1 x 1 x 11+ | 1" x 1" x11 1/8" |
| Smoketree | Longest piece I can get is 10 3/4", but I can do 1.5" x 1.5" easy. |
Is the emerald green arborvitae actually green?
I assume it's referring to the branches/leaves, which are a fairly deep green color. The wood itself is a mix of cream color and a golden brown towards the pith. It's surprisingly chatoyant. These are shellacked and wrapped in plastic, but you get the idea.
@Friedrich9 just getting myself up to date. This is what I currently have for you.
Wood Size Weight African birch 300 × 112 × 50mm 11 ⅞" × 4 ⅜" × 2" 1934 g 4.26 lbs Guayacan 152 × 102 × 32mm 6" × 4" × 1 ¼" 639 g 1.41 lbs Parba 22 × 150 × 57mm ⅞" × 5 ⅞" × 2 ¼" 1505 g 3.32 lbs Black palmira 530 × 69 × 24mm 20 ⅞" × 2 ¾" × 1" 1011 g 2.23 lbs Leatherwood 295 × 165 × 37mm 11 ⅝" × 6 ½" × 1 ½" 1362 g 3.00 lbs Turkey oak 315 × 210 × 45mm 12 ⅜" × 8 ¼" × 1 ¾" 1868 g 4.12 lbs Kenthao ironwood 185 × 180 × 65mm 7 ¼" × 7 ⅛" × 2 ⅝" 2468 g 5.44 lbs 10.8 kg 23.8 lbs
Here's my slightly outdated list of woods that I have or have had, again if anything piques your interest:
Wood Barter wood list.xlsx
Here's a loose wishlist of what you've got that I could use. These are woods on the TWD poster that I don't have, but if you have any other interesting Australian woods I'm also in. I've flagged a few if you want some sort of shortlist, but I'd take whatever you can spare for a fair trade or trade/sale.
Common name Botanical name TWD Priority Formosa Koa Acacia confusa AUS Ironwood wattle Acacia excelsa AUS Acacia mangium Acacia mangium P Black Wattle Acacia Mearnsii AUS Waddywood Acacia Peuce AUS Spear wattle Acacia rhodoxylon AUS Boonaree Alectryon oleifolius AUS Red Alder Alnus rubra NA Aus Red Ash Alphitonia excelsa AUS Espave Anacardium excelsum CA Mersawa burl Anisoptera costata P King Billy pine Athrotaxis selaginoides AUS Cancharana Cabralea cangerana SA Australian cypress Callitris columellaris AUS Rosita/Santa Maria Calophyllum brasiliense CA Hawaiian Kamani Calophyllum inophyllum P Belah Casuarina cristata AUS Barba de jolote Cojoba arborea CA Yellow sassafras Doryphora sassafras AUS NG walnut Dracontomelon mangiferum P Kapur Dryobalanops aromatica P Cooktown ironwood Erythrophleum chlorostachys AUS Yellow river Gum Eucalyptus Leucoxylon AUS Brown top Eucalyptus Eucalyptus obliqua AUS Swamp Mahogany Eucalyptus robusta AUS Sydney Blue Gum Eucalyptus saligna AUS Salmon gum Eucalyptus salmonophloia AUS Gimlet Eucalyptus Eucalyptus salubris AUS Wandoo Eucalyptus wandoo AUS Ulin Eusideroxylon zwageri P Tamo Ash Fraxinus mandshurica ASIA Borneo Rosewood Gluta spp P Ramin Gonystylus spp. P Southern SilkOak Grevillea robusta AUS Rubber wood Hevea brasiliensis P Black Ironwood Krugiodendron ferreum CA Brush Box Lophostemon confertus AUS Red Bauhinia Lysiphyllum carronii AUS Sapodilla / Zapote Manilkara zapota CA Mora Mora excelsa SA Black Stinkwood Ocotea bullata AFR Black Ironwood/ Cape Olive Olea capensis AFR Indonesian Nyatoh Palaquium spp. Payena spp. P Celery top pine Phyllocladus aspleniifolius AUS NZ Totara Podocarpus totara AUS Silver poplar Populus alba E Weeping willow Salix babylonica ASIA True sandalwood Santalum album ASIA Warma/ Guyana rosewood Swartzia benthamiana CA Manni Symphonia globulifera AUS Makore Tieghemella heckelii AFR Lacebark Elm Ulmus parvifolia ASIA Siberian red elm Ulmus pumila E Gum Arabic Vachellia nilotica AFR Shittim Vachellia seyal AFR Solomons queen Ebony Xanthostemon melanoxylon P Mangkono Xanthostemon verdugonianus P Tigre caspi Zygia cataractae SA
You typically look for small pieces. What size would you be looking for? I’m not certain how I’m cutting it, or when yet. My goal is to turn a bowl out of the hardest wood from every continent according to the wdb poster. I wish I could wrap the trade up with the other pieces so I know exactly what all I have to work with
@daveflutes thanks I’ll look over your list again. And I’ll look through my stash to see what on the wish list I can cut for you. How did you want to do the trade? Species for species? By weight?
@daveflutes i meant to ask in my last post but forgot...
I heard you got a pretty good stash of cocuswood. If so, can we work that into the trade? I can currently find knife scales of it locally, but I'm looking for bigger pieces.
If Fred can't help you with the species below, i should be able to get you a piece from my inventory:
- makore (i have a 4/4 board, so i can do 1x1x12 blanks or you could laminate to a full size flute)
- swamp mahogany (have a narrow curly live edge piece that is from Hawaii but it's still eucalyptus robusta. Pretty sure i can squeeze out a 1x1x12 without bark)
- ironwood wattle & boonaree (need to double check lengths, but i think i can get a 1x1x12 of each. I got these from Fred last year. I'm fairly certain these were two aussie pieces that were on the longer side)
I heard you got a pretty good stash of cocuswood. If so, can we work that into the trade? I can currently find knife scales of it locally, but I'm looking for bigger pieces.
If Fred can't help you with the species below, i should be able to get you a piece from my inventory:
- makore (i have a 4/4 board, so i can do 1x1x12 blanks or you could laminate to a full size flute)
- swamp mahogany (have a narrow curly live edge piece that is from Hawaii but it's still eucalyptus robusta. Pretty sure i can squeeze out a 1x1x12 without bark)
- ironwood wattle & boonaree (need to double check lengths, but i think i can get a 1x1x12 of each. I got these from Fred last year. I'm fairly certain these were two aussie pieces that were on the longer side)
@daveflutes @Big Ry
I can definitely do the ironwood wattle and boonaree. I don’t have swamp mahogany or makore in Dave’s size though
I have bought wood from these guys before. They have some makore. https://zuschnittholz24.de/epages/0...61e-8967-4f56-b9a4-0a904eef3caa/Products/1249
For the swamp mahogany, i can get a 1x1x12, but it'll have to be sappy. Might be more like 1x15/16x12 too. I got this piece on eBay from a Hawaiian dealer (okcrabtree).
The makore measures 15/16”, but i got plenty of it to do 3x15/16x18 if you want. This board is KD and came from rare woods USA in Maine.
The makore measures 15/16”, but i got plenty of it to do 3x15/16x18 if you want. This board is KD and came from rare woods USA in Maine.
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@Big Ry I don't have any good sizes of cocus, my main stash was bought for Harry. I have the barky bits we didn't want to risk with Australian customs, but the biggest piece might just do a punky pen blank. The rest I have was an even dodgier live edge piece from Cropp with very little heartwood. I'll get all the bits together to take stock anyway.
Feines Holz in Germany have pen blanks at about $8, but the only place I've seen big pieces is Gilmer for big bucks!
I'll check your list in full, but 15/16" square is a nice size for the ones you flagged.
Feines Holz in Germany have pen blanks at about $8, but the only place I've seen big pieces is Gilmer for big bucks!
I'll check your list in full, but 15/16" square is a nice size for the ones you flagged.
Yeah, I'm not paying Gilmer's absurd prices. I don't want cocuswood that bad lol. I'll probably just buy the scales just to say I have the wood.
BTW, I cant seem to find 8/4 American Sycamore, but I was able to find spindle blanks in 1.5, 2, and 2.5 squares (all 18" long), so I grabbed a couple for you to do full size flutes. Its all KD. Ive purchased from this company several times before, and their spindle blanks are excellent quality.
Also, is that a yes on the Swamp Mahogany and Makore?
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