pallet wood nice contrast id help please

See my previous post

Funny, must not have scrolled all the way down...Populus simonii and P. yunnanensis have faint growth rings, while P. lasiocarpa is more similar to those we see in the north east as for growth rings...They are the only Chinese 'populus' I have had some exposure to.

Back to the drawing board...
 
???? any further thoughts here fells @Mr. Peet @phinds

Trev,

I have not had the time needed to look into much. Paul gave me two pieces last month. The heartwood has good reaction under blacklight, the sapwood does not. If it was a chemical treatment, both would react. So, now just need to look thought the 300 reactive woods from that part of the world (thus my slow action). Sorry for the inconvenience.
 
Trev (@vegas urban lumber) I took another look at the softwood pieces you sent and they appear to be spruce, but that's a pretty weak guess, based on this:
  • They DO have resin canals. They are so small and infrequent that I missed them the first time.
  • They have to be spruce, pine, or Douglas fir because they have very small resin canals (the resin canals in all pines are larger)
  • The latewood seems too thin for larch
  • For Douglas fir, the color is very unlikely and the fir almost always has thicker latewood.
  • Spruce seems to be a good match on color and latewood size.
SO ... probably spruce of some kind but I wouldn't go so far as to bet money on it.
 
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i bought a table top, damaged amazon return the other day from my local amazon returns auction house https://www.nellisauction.com/ Box says it was made in vietnem, quoting it as being acacia wood. it looks exactly like the pallet wood, right down to the triangular pith. in searching google for Vietnam acacia wood i found this site, naming it as a super fast growing hybrid in Vietnam used in a lot of their furniture export, paper and pallet products.

https://www.thinhphufurniture.com/acacia-wood-used-for-furniture/

2. Which ACACIA species we are using?

The Acacia hybrid, a cross between Acacia Mangium and Acacia Auriculiformis, grows in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, and China. The Acacia hybrid is a medium-sized tree that looks similar to A. mangium. In 2 years, the tree can reach 8 to 10 m and 7.5 to 9.0 cm d.b.h. The species grows on sandy loam or sandy clay loam soils; however, it also thrives on lateritic crude soils.
 
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i bought a table top, damaged amazon return the other day from my local amazon returns auction house https://www.nellisauction.com/ Box says it was made in vietnem, quoting it as being acacia wood. it looks exactly like the pallet wood, right down to the triangular pith. in searching google for Vietnam acacia wood i found this site, naming it as a super fast growing hybrid in Vietnam used in a lot of their furniture export, paper and pallet products.

https://www.thinhphufurniture.com/acacia-wood-used-for-furniture/

2. Which ACACIA species we are using?

The Acacia hybrid, a cross between Acacia Mangium and Acacia Auriculiformis, grows in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, and China. The Acacia hybrid is a medium-sized tree that looks similar to A. mangium. In 2 years, the tree can reach 8 to 10 m and 7.5 to 9.0 cm d.b.h. The species grows on sandy loam or sandy clay loam soils; however, it also thrives on lateritic crude soils.

Hybrids are an interesting subject. What I find really interesting is density. Acacia mangium (Big leaf acacia) is commonly sold as flooring. It is a hard, dense wood like sugar maple. It is dark brown but can have green colored hues. Acacia auriculiformis (Earleaf acacia) is a very fast grower and short lived. Trees are often harvested between 10 and 15 years in age. The dark brown wood is hard and dense (like sugar maple). Your wood was far lighter in weight and less dense. But as said, hybrids can be interesting.
 
Thanks for the update. I think you have a winner. Here are high magnification end grain pics of Acacia Mangium from the NCSU site and one I took of the pallet wood.
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@vegas urban lumber --- Well, I'm no longer convinced that it's Acacia mangium, even though the end grain is an excellent match. The problem is that except for The Wood Database, which is completely at odds with other reports, Acacia mangium is a very hard, heavy wood used for heavy construction and flooring and it will take a mirror finish. This wood is under 30lbs/cuft which just can't be called "heavy" and I'm confident it would not stand up to use as flooring. Also, it won't take a mirror finish.

I'll ask Eric where he gets his "32 lbs/cuft" for Acacia mangium, since that's at odds with all other reporting that I have found.

SO ... I'm back to being flummoxed.
 
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