- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #41
I'll give some more thought to doing something I haven't done on the previous guitars. And I don't care for inlays on the face of the fingerboard. I put tiny dots on the bass side of the fingerboard.
Fourth guitar - Panama Exocet
- Thread starter DLJeffs
- Start date
Found this when I was trying out a couple of guitars. It is a four ply binding b/w/b/w on an ebony board- just subtract the last white inner binding to give you an idea should this be the route you want to take……note the body top perimeter follows the same binding scheme.
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #43
Thanks for those pics. It looks there's actually a binding strip around the outside of the fretboard, so the w-b-w is just like purfling inside a binding strip.
There is a black binding strip at the outer perimeter of the fretboard. The b/w/b/w are glued up together whereas purfling is inset into a groove or a channel. Kind of does look like purfling. Though with this economy prized guitar they would use plastic all the way through, with middle to higher end they would use higher end woods and seashells (mother of pearl, abalone, paua, etc.) and employ actual purfling. I don’t know how you feel about plastics, but they do crack and shrink over time.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #45
Went by my coach's shop today. He's got 8 guitars almost done - final sanding / buffing, then glue on the necks and final tuning fit up. He likes to distress most of the guitars he makes so he'll crack the finish using cold air burst before final. His objective is to make a new guitar that looks like it's been played for a long time.
Doug, I wanted to share this with you in reference to your “000” build. I was at The Met begging of the year and stumbled into the Musical Instruments exhibit. These are both early CF Martin instruments (c. 1959)- the one on the left is a parlor “0-16NY” and the one on the right is an “00-18G”. Simple instruments with genuine mahogany back/sides/neck. Sound board because of its time period when it was built, it is most likely Sitka spruce (NW)- about mid 1940’s when supply dwindled out of Adirondack red spruce, they switched to Sitka. Note that the parlor has a pyramid style bridge and the “00” has a classical style bridge. I would gather from the period these were
made that the bridge and fretboard material is out of Brazilian rosewood (dalbergia nigra)- that is what it appears to me when I saw it on display. Brazil put an embargo on this species in the early mid 1960’s (started using 3 piece BZ rswd. backs in around 1965) and CF Martin switched to East Indian rosewood in the late 1960’s (c. 1969).
Backstory:
www.metmuseum.org
www.metmuseum.org
@Mike Hill
@Greenacres2
made that the bridge and fretboard material is out of Brazilian rosewood (dalbergia nigra)- that is what it appears to me when I saw it on display. Brazil put an embargo on this species in the early mid 1960’s (started using 3 piece BZ rswd. backs in around 1965) and CF Martin switched to East Indian rosewood in the late 1960’s (c. 1969).
Backstory:
C. F. Martin & Co. - Guitar - American - The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The Met presents over 5,000 years of art from around the world for everyone to experience and enjoy.
C. F. Martin & Co. - Guitar - American - The Metropolitan Museum of Art
The Met presents over 5,000 years of art from around the world for everyone to experience and enjoy.
@Mike Hill
@Greenacres2
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #47
Very cool! Interesting they put such a huge clear pick guard on the "0"-16NY. Maybe they wanted to stiffen the top a little. I'm guessing those are Peter Stookey and Paul Yarrow's guitars?
It appears to me they were trying to shield the soundboard from slowing down the advanced wear and tear- you can kind of see the tell tale sign of the right hand picking/plucking/strumming between the rosette and the bridge (discoloration in the patches of raw spruce and finished spruce).
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #49
I've been helping my guitar coach, just helping around the shop, inventorying misc stuff he's accumulated, building some shelves, etc. Today we went over to another local woodworker's shop to use his big drum sander to thin some backs and sides. Here's about $20k of backs and sides all thinned up and ready for bending and trimming.
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #50
Got an hour in my coach's shop today so we routed the rabbets for the binding. There will be the cocobolo binding with a b/w/b purfling strip between the cocobolo and the top and also on the bottom. It's going to look awesome.
Well yaaa....
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #52
I think my coach was feeling a little guilty about waiting so long to bind this guitar. We met last week but spent the time doing other stuff he needed doing. So today we met again and after doing a bunch of moving of stuff he needs to mail to another shop and talking about another project he has on going, we bound the back of this guitar. We'll bind the top Wednesday.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #53
Woo hoo, all bound now! Next up, sanding to get ready for pore filling and finishing.
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #54
Brought the body home because I can work on it myself now for awhile. Scraping, sanding, and scraping and sanding..... Got the sides about 90% done, probably ready for inspection. Got the top about half done, still have some high edges to take down and lots of sanding still to do. Tiny bit of tear out in the torrified spruce top, that stuff is soft! Hopefully it'll sand out or we'll fill it when we epoxy fill it. Haven't touched the back yet. But I have time.
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #56
Yes, and a razor blade like a tiny scraper to focus on small spots, like glue spots. Put tape on one corner of the scraper to protect the spruce top then sort of rotate the scraper as I go around, always keeping the taped end on the top. Then a sanding block with 220 grit. On the sides I stuck 180 grit to an old tube of caulking, worked great. Had to tune up my scrapers before I started.
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #58
Another milestone. Body is completely bound, scraped, sanded, ready for my coach to check it over and baring any corrections, ready to pore fill with epoxy. Looking forward to that because it'll give me an idea how the grain and various wood will look after finishing.
Last edited:
- Thread Starter Thread Starter
- #60
Thanks Henry (and Chuck, Frank and Mark too), I hope so. But I hope it sounds good more.
Last edited: